Tired of the BUll! The damn governor doesn’t have to come.

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by Smithy, Apr 30, 2020.

  1. Smithy

    Smithy Elite Poster Founding Member

    Hey......it’s time to have our shoots. I really don’t give a rats ass if the govna or anyone else want to go. They are our events. Stay home if you want!

    They can bring their police if they want. They better be able to tell me what law was broken. Not what some bureaucratic doctor said.
  2. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Forum Leader Founding Member

    I agree with you 100%, problem is once it was declared a "National Emergency" all of the rules change ... The President says he will not extend the Quarantine but has never declared the "National Emergency " was no longer an issue (maybe an over sight ) but either way until then it is in effect ... AG Barr stated it is like having everyone under house arrest and that is about as accurate as anything I have heard ... Justified or not do we really know for sure one way or the other ..? We all know Death is inevitable, I would rather die fighting for something I believe in than for no reason at all and shooting trap would not be a good enough reason for me ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
  3. cwtech

    cwtech Active Member

    It's not always a federal ruling.

    The governors of some states have signed "Executive Orders" which allow them the power to control things, such as what activities or businesses may or may not be shut down.

    Back in March, NJ's governor closed gun shops, background checks, and shooting ranges. ...After the feds ruled gun stores could remain open, NJ was overruled. ....Gun shops and background checks were reopened, but ranges were not.
    ....Hopefully, range restrictions will be rescinded soon.

    Some member-type trap clubs are shooting on the sly, but that could come back to bite them on the ass.
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  4. Smithy

    Smithy Elite Poster Founding Member

    You guys don’t have to shoot. Stay at home until Christmas. You can catch pneumonia sled riding.
  5. Ken Cerney

    Ken Cerney State HOF Member State Hall of Fame Founding Member

    Feds ruled gun ranges as essential. We have been shooting here in Wisconsin all along. No registered shoots yet but Wednesday we start with a Big 50.
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  6. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Forum Leader Founding Member

    I sincerely feel, sense, and can relate to peoples frustrations over the stay at home orders, I have no places to go but I just want out of this house for something other than a trip to the grocery store or WalMart ... The house seems to be shrinking with my wife, my dog, and and only me here right now ... I tune into the Daily reports with hopes of seeing things level off for the people of America ... I get irate thinking about and hearing that Bill Gates his wife and Geo Soro's are in the mix up to their necks with the Vaccines and money's supporting WHO in Wuhan, China where this virus supposedly originated ... Those people believe in Population Control and they act as if they have the right to say who lives and who dies, if they control the vaccines you can bet they will have a say so in who gets treated or not ... The Government has to take control of those people or we are all doomed you can bet on that ... This is a Catch 22 right now, hope and pray that something turns in the right direction to turn things around ... In the mean time I have America in my prayers ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
  7. Smithy

    Smithy Elite Poster Founding Member

    There is not such thing as a stay at home order. Barring a trial of course.
  8. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Forum Leader Founding Member

    There can be a stay at home order in a damn quick hurry, you can bet on that ... So far it has been use your own judgement, that can change also ... I do not condone it, hope if you get it you do not give it to me because I can tell you , you will not die from the Corona Virus if I know for a fact it was you where I got it ... The last thing I want to do is get it and pass it on to someone who cannot fight it off ... Little common courtesy and respect for your fellow man is and should be the order of the day until this thing gets under control ... Go to any store in the area where I live and if you do not have a mask they give you one, if you don't wear it , you do not enter from there you can get your trial ... No body likes it, but its part of living or dying for right now ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
  9. Smithy

    Smithy Elite Poster Founding Member

    I am on the PA OH line. Ohio doesn’t have to wear masks and most with testicles in PA aren’t wearing them. The Supreme Court has called PA govna Wolf onto the carpet.

    I will obey reasonable laws written by legislators. I will do all legal things provided by the Constitution of the US. I am a free US Citizen.

    I will not obey laws written by a doctor. And I don’t give a rats ass about an order. Orders ain’t laws.

    TRUMP GUY Active Member

    U.S. Attorney General Barr says you have constitutional rights in good times and bad times. National emergency doesn’t “Trump” your rights.
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  11. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Forum Leader Founding Member

    Good luck finding a place (Club) to fulfill your addiction, they are all closed for the most part any way if there is one open near you have at it ... I don't hear of any Top Guns pushing to get things going again (prematurely) and taking chances when they make a good return on the money they have invested on the events they play at the shoots ... I really could care less what you do, go and shoot at some place you will probably win being as you will be the only one there ... We all are Governed by the same Laws, rights, freedoms, when there is a National Emergency declared the "RULES" change ( do not get eliminated ) , not your rights, or laws unless declared also, common sense should prevail and does in most cases unless you feel threatened by not being able to go and break some clay at a club that probably isn't open ... Have a day ... I will wait it out a bit longer with hopes there is some progress made for all of the people of America not the chosen few ...
    Your follower (Trump Guy) had to get a shot in for you, take him with you and explain to him no body said anything about ones "RIGHTS" being Trumped ... Say it slow so he understands ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
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  12. ken woodworth

    ken woodworth Active Member

    I guess you haven’t had someone close to you die, I’m sure you’ll change your story if that happens. Sad one con only think of himself when so many need your help
  13. butterly

    butterly Mega Poster

    The goal is herd immunity. Look it up. The sooner we get to the point the better right? Sheltering keeps us from getting to that point. If we don’t pass germs to each other we lose our immunity. Sheltering only keeps the hospitals from being overwhelmed. But only slightly. There may never be a vaccine.

    Sweden took the quick route to that point.

    If we need laws to protect us that would be the job of those elected. We are still a democratic republic. We still have laws protecting us. I am not ready for a dictatorship.

    I could lose my business soon and my whole family could be living under a bridge. Millions could be under bridges. And a lot of us had friends that died for those rights some of you may be willing to ignor.

    If the CC has a shoot. I will be there. It is my freedom too. My liberty. My life.
  14. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Forum Leader Founding Member

    The operative word is IF the CC has a shoot.
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  15. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Forum Leader Founding Member

    I know a guy they call Ace because he has only one testicle. Saw him in Giant Eagle yesterday. He was wearing a mask.

    I don't know if all the other males loading their contracting trucks at Home Depot or Lowes had testicles but they were all wearing masks.
    I didn’t ask

    I did see a few guys with hats that had either a Viet Nam Vet or a WWll emblem on them. Pretty sure they still had their testicles. Again, that was before I saw your post so I didn't think about asking them either.

    I was in the local Ace Hardware store Wednesday (the guy with one testicle doesn't own it) and a customer started to enter without a mask. The store owner happened to be at the register and politely told him that he needed a mask if he wanted to come in. The guy went to his truck and got his mask. He probably just forgot. That was before your post so I didn't think to ask him if HE had any testicles.
    I live just south of Pittsburgh. With working on everything that needed done on and around the house I've made MULTIPLE trips to 2 different Home Depots and 2 Lowes and to the grocery stores probably more times a week than most. Since the order came down I haven't seen ANYONE WITHOUT a mask inside ANY of them. I put one on when I get near the door. I don't like it but the sign at the entrance states that you have to wear one if you want to enter. Doesn't say anything about a law. That's what the company wants.( See their law department).

    If you lived in PA and wanted to go inside a store you would wear a mask. Either that or not eat. Unless of course you lived on a farm, butchered your own meat, and had a greenhouse that is producing crops already. You want a cold one after working around the house? wear a mask when you buy your choice of beverage. I guess someone COULD make their own beer and build a still if they wanted.

    I would be willing to bet a buck that the people living on the other side of PA closer to NJ and NY don't even think about walking into a store without one. A mask I mean, not their testicles.

    Bottom line? Even if our PA governor has to "rescind" his order that doesn't mean the grocery chain, Giant Eagle is pretty big around here, has to let anyone inside without a mask.

    I can hear their lawyers now,
    "Do we want to be known as the store that helped spread this stuff?" Our next commercial could be, Get your fuel perks and a shot at winning the COVID-19 lotto."

    JMO, but I don't think they want that distinction.

    BTW, After reading the post I checked to make sure. Yep, I still have both of them. Though, after all the jobs I've done around the house I COULD say I've almost worked them off.

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  16. Frogman

    Frogman Member Founding Member

    Our club in south west Ohio has been open for the last 4 weeks for members only.They show up on there own or with a few other members set up the voice calls and away they go.It has been very popular. We are about 2 weeks away from starting league shooting up again. I feel bad for the people of N.Y. and N.J. but for the rest of the country it was like a typical flu season. This nation wide shutdown that we did to ourselves will cause just about every city, county, and state to go into bankruptcy. In the long run this will cause more suffering than the virus did. I did not know the governor of a state with an executive order can override our constitutional rights.
  17. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Forum Leader Founding Member

    An Obituary ....... Brilliant!!

    Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years.

    No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:

    - Knowing when to come in out of the rain; -
    Why the early bird gets the worm;
    - Life isn't always fair;
    - And maybe it was my fault.

    Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge).

    His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a girl classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.

    Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.

    It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.

    Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims.

    Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.

    Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.

    Common Sense was preceded in death, -by his parents,
    Truth and Trust,
    -by his wife, Discretion,
    -by his daughter, Responsibility,
    -and by his son, Reason.

    He is survived by his 5 stepchildren; -
    I Know My Rights
    - I Want It Now
    - Someone Else Is To Blame
    - I'm A Victim
    - Pay me for Doing Nothing

    Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone. If you still remember him, pass this on. If not, join the majority and do nothing.

    Stay well and be safe my friends ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
    Last edited: May 3, 2020
  18. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Member State Hall of Fame Founding Member

    Only legislators can pass laws. Governors can not. Business owner can refuse to let you in with out a mask if they post the rule at their business. Roger C.
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    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame Founding Member

    I went to Defiance, Ohio today to pick up a prescription for Ann at Krogers. I didn't go in I used the curb side pick up but the parking lot was full. I drove through Lowes lot to see if they had the garden section open and the parking lot looked like Christmas, as did Meyers and Mernards lots. People everywhere about half with masks. Lowes employees aren't wearing masks and I don't know about the other stores. It looks like around here people figured May 1 was long enough.
  20. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Member State Hall of Fame Founding Member

    Brad, This is all bull shit incited by the China commies, the Iranians and the democrats. PLUS the fake news that want to try to screw up the election. .THEY NOW KNOW HOW EASY WE CAN PANIC. Roger C.
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  21. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Elite Poster Staff Member Founding Member

    The democraps know no President loses an election with a strong economy. They've spent 3.5 years trying to un-elect our current President without success. Many people are obviously frustrated with Trump and this silly lockdown as shown by his sagging poll numbers. The democraps need to keep this covid thing going as long as possible if they have any hopes of regaining the Whitehouse. We, the citizens of this country, are pawns in this high stakes game.
  22. dr.longshot

    dr.longshot Grudge Match Champion Forum Leader Founding Member Grudge Match Champion

    I was at Cardinal Sporting Clays Friday, they are open, shooters are using the m6 foot rule and drove there in their own cars, I took my gun but it was too cold for me, the young whipper snappers shot the total 100 bird course, yhey mshot 2m 50 bird Courseses, their 5bStand was open and shooters were shooting it.
  23. Charles E Love

    Charles E Love Mega Poster

    Stay 6' apart and only one needing to wear mask as shop personal - a liability issue.