I could only imagine how many more of the smaller clubs would close down if mandated to add that much money to their fields! Should we ever have...
Since the very beginnings of our sport, making the game tougher was accepted and it grew. That's not to say there wasn't grumbling then because there...
Larry, you do have a dog in this fight, it's the fairness to our sports average shooters we should all strive for. Remember, shooters can ask to...
In 2003, the height settings were changed from 8 to 12 foot to 8 to 10 foot. I've asked why over the years and have never gotten an answer that makes...
There are many shooters that deserve to shoot from the 18 yard line! It's up to us members to also police the mis-deeds done to our sport! If such...
Hope your better soon Gary and best wishes. HAP
We once had money shoots, even at some of the smaller clubs too. Of course that was when no one knew who the probable winner might be. Decades of...
Rob alluded to the fairness of one shooter earning points for a 99 and his buddy shooting a small shoot breaking the same score was granted honorary...
One doesn't have to attend many bluebird shoots to realize our game is practically a miss and out thing these days, especially in our singles game....
Thanks John, for clearing that up for me, I couldn't totally understand why or how SCs would make that game easier as has skeet/trap. The fact that...
John, I feel if sporting clays go the easier route for higher scores, if may hinder their growth down the road also. SC target presentations may be...
Bill, shooter growth began it's decline about the same time as the setting rule was being violated in earnest in the late 80s. That practice being...
In 1955, that 2 yard increase was to further handicap one single shooter, Arnold Reigger for his dominance in our game of handicap. Considering the...
Looking at all ATA shooters from our very beginnings, the best shooters have always risen to be their best and to be the best shooters. It's...
Most shooters have no idea why we need a tad more difficult game! It's certainly not to make winners out of losers or handicap one out of contention...
LOL, the IDNR trying to come up with ways to make a little more money at the complex possibly? LOL HAP
The Martins donations did exactly what they intended, to a degree. It caused more targets to be shot even if the shooter numbers wasn't what was...
FG, I think when we changed the rule, some Pat traps were already installed. Throwing doubles with the Pat works ok on a bluebird windless day at...
JMIS, welcome to the world of trapshooting guy!! Set realistic goals for your shooting improvement and go after them with gusto!! Shoot well! HAP
Jo2, 1. They wouldn't now either. 2. About .002. 3. Distances thrown varies club to club. 3."b" they wouldn't today either. Kinda sounds like a...
Ray Stafford's averages went up a little also that year. Until that so called try out year and a year or so prior, clubs all across the country...
tm9222, inside information, if I may call it that, is our sports history since 1969 as that was the last date any attempt was made toward a little...
I've always promoted Terry's wall chart for off season practice even though I don't have one. For years I've used the corners of wall hangings, nails...
I add weight to all my guns stocks and in my model 12s mag too. HAP
When the Martins added the Lewis money, less shooters shot more targets hoping to get in on that action in 2012. SO, added money does create more...
At our state shoot I was chatting with a few out of state shooters about traps. They were in the process of replacing 4 traps at their club. They...
Thanks again to all of you fellow shooters! converse, I do everything possible to limit my shooting to 200 targets per day. Friday 27th was an...
Warren61, in my personal view, discussing a problem only is but a first step toward admonishing those that take liberty's and violate our rules....
Here's a picture of the hardware I was lucky enough to bring home this year. All of the trophies were won in the SV category, tough class I might add...
Thanks for all the attaboys guys!! I'll post a picture or two tomorrow, too sore today to get much of anything done around the ranch. Shoot well...
Gary, Quail Dog, is Tom Strunk, my best friend. I've never know him to say unkind things about most anyone, ever! Copy and past his words or tell me...
Thanks my friends! HOA & HAA in state SV plus handicap sr.vet win today! Coulda been a total SV sweep but not for my dismal dbles score. The cash is...
Thanks guys! Lost the carry-over but won high in state sr.vet with a 197 today. That's after losing one on each of my first three traps!! Will do...
Didn't we have a huge brew ha-ha when one of our Australian friends shot at the Grand, then at the CC and was badly misclassified or put on the wrong...
The programs state; "Class winners will be advanced to the next highest class, for the next like event." In such cases with all the class and...
Larry, your post is good and it tells everyone how most clubs have always set targets. Some club operators did change the standard setting to attract...
Wasn't that what Neal C. attempted to do, make it known that 34 degree angles were ONLY for hard blowing head wind settings? That when the rule...
Kenny, you are so right in your post above this last jewel also!! I was in somewhat of a hurry to get back to my NCAA tourney I wasn't thinking so...
Gary Bryant, it's far better to keep your pie hole shut and let people think you're a fool rather than open it and confirm their thoughts! You...
Gary, I'll PM you Howards phone number so you can call his with your questions. No, he doesn't have a web-site. HAP
Gary Bryant, your comprehension skills are severely lacking again! Dedicated shooters like yourself? Heck guy, you don't even shoot ATA targets...
I personally don't think many would drop a sport they love doing because of a rule change. The "cheating" I make reference to is the same one you...
There's always been a cheating element involved in our sport, nothing new there at all. Except that it wasn't nearly as widespread till the early...
In 1976, Sue Nattrass had the lady's high singles average with a 98.xx That lady sure can shoot! HAP
Don, I'd guess since Carl was waiting on targets, they musta been all of 10 er 12 feet outa the house huh? Man does he shoot quick!! HAP
JM, buffer increases chamber pressure quite a lot but I have no idea why the IM choke is recommended. I've shot many buffered loads with my full...
Thanks DBW for the update on Britt!! HAP
Great question and I'm sure Brad will give you his thoughts too! May help untold shooters having that same problem with cross-firing in addition!...
Unless you're familiar with P guns, it's best if you have someone that knows how and you watch how it's fixed. HAP
I remember shooting under the old rule where guns sometimes mis-fired after calling for a target. It was the same as todays shooting, depending on...
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