I don't have the time to educate you on the sale of the grounds of Vandalia and what was promised therein. It is a big deal to me at least. It...
Wow Jo2. Complaining that someone stepped up to the plate and became a life member is about the dumbest post yet. (just my opinion) It also...
Ken Diagram #91 shows you need a spacer bar of 4 1/4 inches for a 2 hole target. What size bar would you need for a 3 hole bar and how hard is that...
The view is magnificent from the 18 yard line.
What club would that be? I am calling bullshit. I doubt you shoot ATA targets regardless of how easy they are. Your avatar anti Cardinal picture...
Leonidas....if only the ATA was so forward thinking. They seem to be busy covering up cheating scandals while the rest of us are trying to find a...
Leonidas, I get that you are anti Cardinal Center. I get that you don't want this forum. We all get that you and many of your pals in the west...
I have not talked to anyone at the CC about PITA but they log in here almost every day. As Luke from the CC implied they are looking for ways to...
If the ATA will not enforce their rules and are unwilling to listen to the majority of the shooters then I ask why are we paying them monies? I am...
Come on Gary.......name the shoots. They are not in the state of Delaware, Maryland, or New Jersey. So how far are you driving to those ATA...
Gary, Now you say: Sure Gary now that you have backed out of the statement please tell us about the clubs that throw the 50 yard targets like that...
Really Gary, Enlighten us with the major shoots you have attended that throw those targets.
That statistic which I assume was given to you by Neil, shows that we have lost 2/3 of our members. That is all that is left. Thank him and his...
Gary you started out with the saying then you made the false statement All this shows me you are merely defending the position of your pal Neil,...
All of our rules have to be enforced. This isn't just about angles and target length. It is about shell speed. It is about keeping records. It...
Who would ignore it?
Dawg....get with the times. Leave a note on the door and have the shooters tell you their scores next week. We are a paperless organization.
I read where Brian Williams shot a perfect score in West Virginia in minus 20. [ATTACH]
3 degrees for tomorrow's shoot. That of course is without the wind chill added in. I am not sure I have shells that go boom in that temperature.
And you get a rebate at the end of the year!
Did you cheat this year? Have you had targets taken away? Do you need more money to continue shooting? As I understand it those who had their...
Leonidas- - -as best we can tell you have never shot registered targets. I know one of you are life members. I know one of you have paid to have...
Gary.....Are you sure no one is defending this? I am not so sure.
You have to wonder what would motivate someone to defend the corruption of a sport we love. :mad:
Leonidas I never said PITA targets would help registered shooting. It may help Sparta. The more targets thrown the better. The opportunity may be...
The above statement was not anti ATA but more pro trapshooting. Obviously Sparta needs help. Leonidas makes my point by saying, Inviting PITA...
These posts show the different attitudes between those in Ohio and PA vs Iowa and Illinois. Ohio and PA shooters and clubs are happy to throw and...
Is it time for a PITA shoot at Sparta, IL?
Cheat and you get your money back? What a sport! What a country! And you keep the rewards too?
870---It was the poor man's trap gun. Light and fast moving.
I have heard a lot about the PITA organization. The management seems to be top notch. I for one would like to see a date for a PITA shoot. As...
The trapshooting community is always turning the cheek when it come to performance enhancing drugs. I bet 1 in 9 takes insulin before a big shoot.
Please tell me on what planet is the vote of the majority considered a dictatorship. You cant make these things up! :eek:
Leonidas, You missed the latest news. Ohio now has the equivalent of 3 grands each summer. A fourth date is going to be added in July. The shoot...
Which means you do not want equal voting rights. You want the 25 shooters to control the 2500 shooters. And in your opinion the popular vote as you...
Leonidas, your argument earlier was that you did not want equal voting rights. Remember, you wanted the state with 25 shooters to have the same vote...
I could really care less about predicting the demise of the ATA. I do not care about initials. You can use words like PITA , OSTA, or ATA forever....
In the end the states in the heartland of trapshooting will still be shooting trap. Ohio will have at least 3 huge shoots this year. One or two...
I agree with Wishbone. Leonidas, it is unfortunate that quoting you offends you.
Despite being a distant 3rd Iowa has a much vote as number 1.
My delegate understands the issues.
This is your statement Leonidas. One that you said you agree with. And obviously you do not want each member to have an equal vote. And it does...
But in the house of reps the votes are weighted to balance the powers. This is the reason we have have the decisions that have hurt ATA...
Leonidas, by your own admission each member does not have an equal say. The two state's members that have the least say in matters of the ATA are PA...
Interesting that Leonidas does not want each shooter to have an equal vote. Why doesn't that surprise anyone? And also....Leonidas didn't know...
Eightshot, I have had the same problem with most of my guns. I have a fat head. See picture to the left. That is why I use a precision fit stock....
Hi Browningboy85 I wondered the same thing. I have an XT. I opted for the Precision Fit Stock for the following reasons. You can put the same...
A major shoot in July at the Cardinal Center is huge!
So the moose lodge lost some folks and the ATA suffered because of that. Not buying it. The local VFW lost members so we lost membership....
[ATTACH] Cabelas at the Cardinal Center. Big sponsor. Cabelas store is just down the road a bit.
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