Oh I forgot NO KOOL AID for you guys today.
wpt and The Phatom facts, are that all you got just facts. No future for you in the news media or the ATA I say.
I have stated all the facts of the proposal on other threads that I wanted to, I was hoping that there might be ONE delegate out there in the big ATA...
Yes and they are all well used.
Please guys don't chase away Mike.
I was told by the puppet master himself. He wanted it e mailed before Jack and the boys got to Sparta for the meeting so the big heads had a chance...
Flyer your last post is spot on. I miss Holford's Club, I bet Mike J don't know what state that was even in.
I was told Paul Shaw first at the Ohio State shoot, then phone call from Gibson. the next week.
Check out my info from other threads, gospel truth as I know it to be.
Ron that is a later version of the one I have a picture of. That one is from sometimes in the 80's after they added traps.Mine is from 78.
wpt I like your facts on Illinois finances, I doubt that Mike J can construct a Winstonest chart in rebuttal of your post so I'm going to throw some...
Mike J, Ohio and Pa followed up on what they said they were going to do, Illinois was going to make up the difference, not boycott. The move to...
Zimmie I think it was 24 banks and 4 practice traps. I think Vandalia had 100 traps at the end. I have a picture of me and Leo taken in front of...
Mike J your figures show roughly a 20% drop in Illinois shooters attending the grand from the first year till this year. Why is that , are they part...
All those carts remind me of the Grudge Match.
History Buff could you tell us who the EC board members were from about 1999 till 2006. Pleas tell us who was on each year because we know the EC...
My idea the way I had my gun set up was a 100% high with the beads lined up looking flat down the rib on a bench shot. There are many variables that...
Try 8's, just kidding I'll be happy to answer questions but get them to Family Guy so we can have some kind of order to the process. Back in the...
From time to time their are questions asked on this site about trap shooting, guns, money shooting, where you look, where you hold (thank god no 7...
A target claimer (in the old days) would be someone who would miss or dust a target and claim they saw a piece and then try an use some other shooter...
I heard from the grape vine that the targets were set soft and low until last day when they had a little more spring.
I was looking at the numbers from the shoot and one that stuck out is the winner of class AAA doubles on the 200 bird event. I hope it is a typo but...
I don't know what went on but I do know that Shooters today are really spoiled. I've suggested that you get to squad with whoever you want in 16's...
I think that their are several shooters that will do just fine on harder birds. One named Joe from here in Ohio would do just great, that's how he...
The ATA had been making a bunch of rule changes in the late 90's early 2000's before the move that had a major affect on registered shooting. A move...
I know a lot of name shooters from the past and present who say one thing to me but fail to step to the plate and go on the record. I had this...
I talk to Bill a few times each year on the phone. Great Guy.
Very, Very fine. A good rumor always contains a bit a truth that history tells you it is believable and possible. Merlo is just about always right...
I guess I was right.
Only Merlo knows and he'll tell us when it's convenient for us to know, I guess. He (the Top) may have Hung Himself (ya right) in that NY jail last...
Mike J please just ask yourself why in the world would Jack Fishburn, who has no ties to Illinois, offer to help out the people of Illinois. Jack...
Flyer I think I just got a left handed complement. Mike J, I do know what I'm talking about, in fact I'll tell you how this all started. A member...
Mike J Jack flew home Monday afternoon, I don't know what plane you were looking at. You really should see someone about your drinking. You are...
Going from memory without actual paper in front of me at this time. The CC wanted 15K a day to rent the place to the ATA That would be 10 days a year...
And the winners were. NO roll call vote, not even any mention about offer. Two ATA delegates, one from the east, one from the west told me...
Hey family guy, I see you made a shirt for yourself but I think it might be a good idea to make a Merlo Shirt. Use the crow that is his avatar...
Jack is A1.
Going on memory OSTA had about 3/4 mill splint between OSTA and foundation. I think you can get a finacial sheet by asking. OSTA is very...
Butch I hope more old-timers will tell them the error of their ways. Thanks.
I just want the CC to avoid making a real dumb ass move.
Mike when I say the top at the CC I mean Jack and the boys that run the place. Jack is not looking to buy anything in sparta, although he probably...
Bad idea in so many ways. I hope it was just a red herring thrown at Gibson to kill the deal. I told the CC management my opinion. Not printable...
Jack can afford to buy it but he lives in Morrow County, Ohio and has spent his life there. I doubt that he would want to bail out Sparta, Illinois....
The Cardinal Center received a call from the TOP at Sparta to send them a proposal. A member of the EC was looking for a backup plan. The CC sent...
Columbus I think what you have uncovered on this thread is maybe a lot more important than we realize. I would like to know how many of those...
My advice to the boys at the CC was save your breath and don't bother going. Make Gibson and the EC come to you, see what their offer was. What...
First of all I was really impressed with the level of Trap Shooting and Gun Club management experience I see in the assembled group. That alone...
Good Luck
The Ohio State Shoot had 1600 in the Handicap in 1975 ran on I believe 40 traps, but might have been 48 but it was the second event as doubles was...
Well what was the answer, yes or no? Did they have a meeting? Talk about anything? Minutes available anywhere? Anyone talk to their delegate?
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