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What numbers did I give? I never said I did not support trap shooting this year, I have have shot targets this year, like I said I could not attend...

Great have at it. Contact them about getting your State included. Oh, here is a portion of the rules on target setting fromPITA. "no less than a...

Come on Ollie, Doctor is waiting for your answer. If you had an event with two hundred shooters, would you set the machine at the minimum settings...

I did not attend the State shoot this year, because of some health problems of a family member. But what does it matter what my vote was if I...

Doctor, all clubs have the ability to make competitive target changes, right now, but are choosing not to. Talk to your club manager. Ollie, if...

You misunderstand FG. I too favor more challenging targets, but just like HB said, "it will not solve the problem." Shooters who shoot low scores...

DLS, have you ever considered doing stand up comedy? Don't!

Probably members we do not need anyway, apparently not committed to the sport.

What was the total cost of the ATA to move to Sparta? The land was not purchased, the traps were, offices are off site, correct? We just need to...

No I don't think so, he said "harder targets will not solve the problem." A thought shared by most.

Great talk our friends in Ohio into it and it will get done.

I think it would be more of an uninformed President as opposed to one out of control. He cannot dictate 38 yard doubles. They have to be voted...

Perhaps it is because your being a non ATA member you are referring to a rule that does not exist. Humor me, repeat your sought after change...

not being able to edit after a cut off time is the pits. What I said; How do you know other attractions would not work? Ever been to Branson MO?...

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Special tip of the hat for that post HistoryBuff. Harder targets will only cause today's class A shooters to shoot B scores, today's class B...

I don't want to repeat everything said, because it would take up too much time. How do you know other attractions would not work? Ever been to...

Your not doing a very good job. What is meant by your above statement?? ".....trying to ATA my responses....."

WPT, Why is the burden on the shooters? Why not the State of Illinois resopnsible for the problem? If cost to participate increases to a point...

Smoking 357, Maybe you have a problem speaking your mind clearly?

Lady T, Texas is fine with me.

No, I either donate stuff to Good Will, Veterans, or have a garage sale, what I don't put in the trash.

Smoking357, I came to that conclusion a long time ago that you are very confused. Proposal or statement, does not matter, it is not going to...

Lady T, You talkin' Texas?

Sure smoking, if you don't like the rules, change the rules. All you have to do is get a change presented and a majority of delegates to vote on it...

John, All you want to do is argue. You are the most exasperating person I have ever come across. I have stated my position over and over. If you...

So you retract your statement, States with more shooters should not have greater representation?

Your post, listed here as #24, which I quoted. It has been brought up before, you were repeating it.

Shoot well John, What the hell has any of the questions about short thrown targets have to do with what is in the rule book? I want the targets at...

If the rule as written has defined parameters those are the legal parameters. Like I said, bring it up at the Grand, sounds like some education...

Why are you guys gassing about what Neil posts when the rules are what the rules are????? Who cares about short targets, long targets when the...

That is what I thought you were referring to.

So why are we still hashing this around? Do the existing rules meet the requirements to allow "3 hole" settings or not? If so the next question is...

Jhunts are you talking about the Tucson Spring Grand?

The only distance that matters is the one in rule book decided by the delegates YOU voted for to served on the BOD. Whatever N1H1 posts as to...

User 1, excellent points. Looks like ignorance of the rule, by an ATA official, the shoot management, whoever else failed to speak up, maybe?????...

Jhunts, his post refers to his Minnesota club. All politics is local. 48-52 phfffft. Once the target starts to fall it is more than likely to be...

I don't really know, doubt you do either. Your the one saying more populous states need more representation.

And that is why you should leave and forget about the ATA, it is not set up that way and because it is, the other members will not let it be. Your...

Smoking, Isn't the same issue as with target settings? With the exception of The Grand, ATA does not dictate the programs, the cost, the options,...

And you say I have a bad attitude with a bs post like this?

50 targets? Not worth getting in my Caddy, driving 30-40 miles for. If you kids can't afford to play, stay home, learn how to knit.

Let's see, 33.00 a hundred times 3.........99.00 for targets, 100 singles, 100 handicap, and 50 doubles 7.oo in daily...

Smoking357, Maybe those who cannot afford it should take up bowling or get government to regulate it.

Like I said family guy, why do you need ATA? Just go your way and let us no counts suffer with it all by our lonesome? You certainly don't have any...

It's the going rate.

Family Guy, I thought you OH-PA bunch were going to dump ATA and create your own governing body just for you? What's the hold up?

Wish you the best.

Smoking something, If you do not shoot trap, dislike it so much especially the ATA, why does it consume you so much? Are you bored, have nothing...

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