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FG, I still understand what your moronic logic means that I cannot defend the ATA, of which I am an active member, from non members who hate it,...

I did not boycott any State shoot, fool. My ideas are just one. Keep the ATA out of Ohio. Are all Ohio people as ignorant as you? Oh, yeah, got...

What business? I am retired? I have health issues which cause me to miss Colorado State. I have some minor transportation issues that I can fix,...

DLS, What is Ohio doing to qualify for "stepping up to the plate?" So far, I have seen zilch. BTW how are you, family guy and smoking something...

I have any problems with the current status of the ATA. What ideas do you want to see? Return to Ohio? God, I hope not.

Family guy, you, DLS and all your minons are the number one reason the ATA left Ohio and we all pray to God it never returns there.

That right, moving them to Texas.

Gary, Ohio represents two thousand ATA members, there are another 26,000 across the country. Your numbers don't mean swat in the BOD meetings. You...

Zealot, Okay, looks like another minion of DLS has exposed himself. Where's the garlic and the cross? Family guy, you really are THAT stupid...

Gary, Your caring is a bunch of nonsense. I am an old man like you too, but instead of trying to tear down the ATA like you, I am doing what I can...

FG You look at the "ATA" as some sore of ruling body who controls the membership. I look at the ATA as the membership that controls the ATA...

You'll never see anyone roll up their sleeves, just sit around, gossip like a bunch of old women, cry in their beer like a bunch of useless old men.

You are really something else FG, trying to put words in my mouth. I never said ATA is free from criticisms or that members can't criticize....

Here is section on target setting from P.I.T.A. "(b) Targets shall be thrown from an automatic angling trap that has been set in the equivalence of...

I'm not attacking anyone. I am simply saying step up, do what you talk about. He's calling people cowards and accusing them of not acting like a...

FG, Gibson is not my hero, I do not believe in hero worship. All I am saying is DLS cannot make a difference (nor can anybody else) if all they do...

Smoking357, If you were an ATA member, you would know the myth about gambling supported by ATA is another belief held by low information people....

Oh boo hoo hoo hoo. Such a sad, sad thing. Oh woe is us., woe is us. Hey WPT. We are constantly told OH, PA and MI is the ATA, so your saying...

According to one poster here, a person who does not attend a State Shoot and Sparta every year is not qualified to talk about it.

Zealot, I do 't think I am late. I am just trying to tell these people using one of their own tactics that they cannot speak about Sparta or ATA,...

"Branson is too far".........maybe by horse and carriage. Trapshooters all over the country drive hundreds and thousands of miles to shoot trap....

More sofisticated RADAR can measure all types of things, but more than a RADAR gun can. And one more time, the ATA rule book specifically states...

Radar guns do not measure distance, they measure the speed of a moving object. If I could post a link describing how they work, I would. You need...

Well, let us know how that works for you when you start up your new trap organazation to represent those three States.

Because our largest shooting population are a bunch of confused grumpy old men who cannot handle wide angles, so in order to keep them in the fold,...

That's because I have landed in Babel.

DLS, Those settings you want are shown in the ATA rulebook as legitimate targets which are allowed.

I don't want or need your help and I am not going to post the rule for you, again. There is a link to it on this site for you to use. Go to the...

Jhunts, you cannot help me if you do not know what you are talking about. Look at the diagram on page 55 of the ATA rule book and you will see the...

Jhunt, just look at the diagram for page 55 from rule book. Will answer all you questions, unless you just don't want to believe what you are...

Jhunts, above quote from post of Doctor Longshot of thread he started today. If you look at the diagram from the rule book on page 55 showing the...

Have even looked at the diagrams in the rule book? Look at page 55 you will see that straightaways from posts 1 and 5 which were old 3 hole...

No, you don't want to answer my questions why should,I answer yours. I really don't think you have been paying attention. N1H1 told us what the...

No jhunts, not hung up on it, just repeating what some experienced people have written. You should try to get your hands on the article if you can,...

Look, Doctor Longshot in another thread today said it is not the intent of his movement to make the targets harder, just to return the target setting...

Need to limit entries to a max of 100 of best shooters in the country. Then no problem.

Well I am sure glad we got that cleared up.

Hey, back to the issue, P.E.T.A.

God, I hope not. I have to make you guys believe I am as serious as the plaque. I take you still have not put me on ignore yet. Bummer.

I was able to contact the P.I.T.A. PR people and asked them what their goals were for expansion. They sent me this map which shows all the States...

Seriously Dave, that is the the oldest line used by those who want more gun control, "guns should be registered like cars are." The difference is...

It is a 16 hour drive me and would be much more to Vandalia.

Rocky Mountain High.

No, not at all special needs people actually want to learn new things.

not a new post, but another edit: What I said: Sound familiar? The rule says targets will be set at the number two hole of a Winchester 1524. If a...

My last post for today. And the customer is always right, or haven't you heard that one. Ignore me if you wish, it will do us both good. See if...

Oh, but I have been in business, but doubt you ever were, saying it is the burden of the customers to make a business succeed. I guess if I open up...

I don't. I do not do other people's thinking or make their decisions for them.

Prove what? Look family guy, you are the person saying we lost members because of easy target settings dictated by the ATA, you prove what you are...

They do hold State shoots. I did not attend that shoot either, because I am not a member of PITA......yet. Like I said, I missed this State shoot...