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So North is hated for being a good soldier to the CIC? Was it because of who was the CIC at the time?

Who hid it and why? Do you have evidence of a conspiracy to hide it? What other land and if it had been bought from an EC member, what kind of...

Yes, a non profit can sell to a business for profit, I was not being clear, but like you say, taxes will be hire but a non profit cannot make a...

I don’t understand the uproar over ATA donating the HOF to the State of IL. As a non profit, the ATA cannot sell or donate it’s property to any...

BTW, Par4, you are right, I do have a bias. I am a member of the ATA and I want to keep it strong. It has it’s problems, but does not need the...

Par4, Roger made a claim that was untrue and wrote it to besmirch the ATA with his claim. Most ATA people who has been to Ben Avery know what Roger...

Par4, Are you even a member of the ATA?

Par4, First part of your above post, People are first class idiots if they think they can grow an orgainization they claim they are concerned about...

To further my point, this whole thread is a misrepresentation of fact. “Decline in ATA participation......100,000.” To read it and some of the...

The person who made the statement is a regular at the location and participates in ATA shoots there. His presence and participation burdens him with...

Roger, You just st don’t seem to realize you are the “problem” with what is wrong with the ATA. You tell all kinds of untruths, gossip, bullshit,...

So where did you hear this from? It’s not a registered shoot. Is the EC meeting right now? Is it more teenager gossip started to make the ATA...

So there is your venue. If it truly is what most shooters want, it will catch on and expand across the country and ATA will adopt it. If ATA...

It is an organized discipline. The purpose is to set guidelines and standards for target settings, guns, and ammunition. All organized sports,...

But the system is not much different than skeet, sporting clays or bunker, only a very small fraction of shotgun people belong. It’s not the...

This system you want already exists, you sign up, pay your entry fees, then play a high gun purse. You win with the high score. If there is 2 or...

Do you understand your words to begin with? The ATA began in 1900 and the first membership was handed out beginning with membership #1. In 1980,...

Seems you don’t mean what you say, even you don’t believe your own words, I am going to be on the road for the next couple days, I can hardly wait...

And what happens when you find yourself in a “Logan’s Run situation where all those over 30 are exterminated? What you don’t understand is those...

Ohhhhhhhh, ok, I finally got it. Sorry I am so thick headed about it. Submit your membership today and get started. You can shoot at ATA events...

I meant to say in above post, How does your idea increase membership if you don’t require participants to be a member? That is oxymoronic. Why would...

Than what happens to you when you become an old fart yourself in 35 years?

I can accept new ideas, but ideas must be within the realm of reason to be good ideas. Absolute nonsense to allow a non member to participate in a...

Roger, The thing I noticed about you is you cannot make an intelligent or factual statement so you deride and insult people in order to make...

Oleolliedawg, I go to every shoot I can and enjoy myself. I don’t live in or for the good ole days. Life is too short, I am in my 70’s too, in...

Artur Cordea, I wanted to ask you one more thing so I can get a feel for what you are saying. You aren’t by chance a member of the Communist Party...

F.A.B. You are misunderstanding my meaning of that wording. Trap shooting is an expensive hobby or sport. When a young couple is going starting...

Too complicated? Well ATA is not for the simple minded that is for sure, but here is your problem. The ATA is not some big corporation run buy 5...

I posted spending money on trapshooting was a waste? Where?

Roger, I went to Ben Avery today, talked to some big dude behind the office I never saw before, he was as wide as he was tall, buzz haircut. There...

I guess you don’t understand it or all of your posts are a big joke. The 100,000 was the total number of people who joined the ATA since 1900 and...

Smithy Have you ever read publication 555 put out by the IRS? Yes, 503(c)3’s are corporations, but they are non profit corporations and in this...

Flyersarebest, Should ATA trapshooters just stay away from this website????

How so? You saying it is no longer a 503(c)3 non profit?

Smithy, Are you saying a person must attend his State shoot every year to be considered supporting it? I was just wondering if the lame excuse for...

Your right Roger, it was Smithy who passed the lie that I never attended a State shoot. I never hit my State shoot every year. With the amount of...

Roger, you and Smithy are wrong again, but what else is new? During the last 5 years, I have attended three State shoots in AZ and two in Colorado,...

Artur Cordea, What would be the point of belonging to an organization that lets non members participate and would not be record keeping of the...

Lowering the cost of something people do not want, does not make it anymore desirable.

Smithy, Thank you for clearing that up for me. I made the wrong connection, with Trap T questioning 100,000 shooters statement first made by...

So help me understand this. Someone on this thread claims there was at one time, 100,000 active ATA members. TShot says no, not true. Smithy...

Roger, you could do more good increasing ATA membership by inviting someone to a shoot than continued crying about EC ineffectiveness.

Flyers, Reason I popped back in flyers, is because just joe(???) sent me an email telling me I won some sort of grand prize or status as “founding...

So what to do, Roger? It’s a State run facility which you go to, it has multiple disciplines and no doubt the SC allows greater revenue return. But...

Roger, you are kidding right? Ben Avery is not a “club.” It is a public shooting facility operated by the State of Arizona Fish and Game. The...

So you have documents dated two years ago, possible crime committed? Must have been at least two BOD meetings since the date, was it discussed?...

Just remember how "governing by committee" works. And don't choose a name that would cause an embarrassing acronym like Central Reform American...

Skeeterkat, You should care, because you are being mislead by Family Guy. He is repeating another post by some other loser named "langer" who...

You need someone who would know what they are doing, an intelligent Midwesterner to get the ball rolling, which leaves out Family Guy, WPT, and...