Jo2, I guess I thought you had made some contributions when you questioned others. It's fine if you've made no significant contributions but I think...
Good eyes there Flyers.
[ATTACH] As you can see Merlo has abandoned his current location. He's looking into things that have some of the muckey mucks concerned. [ATTACH]...
Jo2, perhaps you can enlighten us all on your contributions. You might be surprised what others have done but I'm sure your contributions to the...
I think the missing trap machines may have gone south to warmer weather. They probably get used often. Oops, I forgot we're not supposed to discuss...
I would hope Bill Martin now realizes his sponsorship of the ATA while very gracious on his part accomplished nothing. Shooters never responded in...
That's quite a title. Being such an important title I guess one would have to pony up big money. Maybe $200,000 or $300,000 or perhaps as much as a...
Be interesting to see where the Democrat gun haters think that $2,000,000 will go to better use. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things...
My friend still seems very confident the future of the WSC will only exist if an outside group buys it and runs it. Currently, nothing is taking...
[ATTACH] That's Bubba leaning against the van. He just brought Merlo down to the bus for his trip home. I guess Merlo's meeting with Gov. Rauner went...
Things are moving forward at a wickedly fast pace. A couple building vendors have signed one year agreements. So, yes, now there are a few signed...
I'm not sure the SCTP has any real need for the ATA at this point. Trap is only one part of the SCTP.
Don makes great points and I understand completely everything he's saying. I just have real concerns the size of the WSC and the location are going...
I'm not concerned so much if it closes or stays open my concern is the ATA spending more than it takes in. If Sparta works, so be it but if things...
Duffer, so how much did the ATA give?
Thought my friend was wrong but he still assures me that he said 2016 was possible but no 2017. He sees much smaller shoot and not enough money...
Just received a hand written note from Dave, Merlo's undercover operative. Don't really know what's going on. The note just said Merlo had to move to...
ATA just announced that IDNR has said they are opening WSC in a couple weeks. First scheduled tournament will be a Glock pistol shoot. ATA VP says...
According to source the WSC is opening in a few weeks and the first scheduled event is a Glock pistol event.
It's starting to look like the Illinois politicians have decided to pass on a 2016 budget and move on to develop a 2017 budget. As stupid as that...
Maybe the spin meister Duffer can show me where I'm going wrong in my thinking
Things are not sounding good. If my information is correct there continues to be a group of legislators in Illinois firmly convinced now is their...
The SCTP will not be returning to Sparta. Given a better location with better infrastructure and much more to do Sparta loses. Throw in the fact that...
This is Dave, one of Merlo's undercover operatives. According to Dave, Merlo has headed out to find a computer. Sometime within the next 48 hours...
What kind of job would Townsend have? Two weeks or a whole month?
Anybody want to venture the amount the ATA might pay for use of the WSC and how much they will take in? Still trying to figure out where all the...
The new replacement procedure used now by some doctors is a minimally invasive operation which is only a 1 1/2 to 2 inch cut. My neighbor just had it...
I actually shoot with Pat Ireland at the Grand in Vandalia two events during the prelims. Nice guy, very willing to discuss anything. Over the years...
My friend was shooting two weeks after his operation. It's been 10 years and he's still doing fine. They have gotten quite good at the operation and...
Stelts, good point my mistake.
Thinking about WPT's post reminding us of how the attending EC members preferred to remain segregated from the shooters I started thinking about my...
I know it's wonderful to argue, especially when most everything at this point is just conjecture. I'm pretty sure the IDNR will have no way to...
staterepcostello@gmail.com I believe this email address might give those interested the best insight into what's going on with the WSC at the state...
If anyone wants to get current information regarding the WSC they might consider contacting Rep Jerry Costello II, D-Smithton. At this point I...
Just to set the record straight. My friend in Chicago is a former shooter now more involved with sporting clays. He spent a few years in state...
Just got off the phone with my friend. He says odds are less than 50/50 the Grands at the WSC this year and zero chance in the future. There will be...
My friend tells me the WSC is not on anyone's calendar. Nobody has any inclination to even be drawn into a conversation regarding the WSC at this...
I guess what I was asking was where are the new agreements? The two vendors I've talked with have been told by the ATA that they would have something...
Duffer, FlaLargo, anyone? Could someone post a copy of these vendor agreements that the vendors in the buildings have for 2016. My friends are afraid...
No movement on the considered value of the complex and no activity regarding the possible sale. Nothing period as nobody has any authority to...
I'm still wondering about these vendor agreements. You know the ones the duffer said are in place. The old agreements were for multiple events so...
HB - I'm not sure how that works as the two I talk with tell me they have not received the terms or pricing of a continuing lease. The old lease...
The majority of vendors in the buildings were on ten year leases that ended in 2015. They do not have new agreements as they have not received any...
It doesn't make any difference who they go through I'm just saying they do not have any agreements in hand for 2016.
Duffer, maybe you can give us more info on the vendors. I talk to two of the larger ones quite often and as of yesterday they still have no agreement...
Nothing different duffer, I'll still be shooting. Probably even shooting the Grand at its new location.
It's pretty interesting to watch the lemmings like Grntitan, hunter44, duffer, little Donny, and others jumping for joy over how well the ATA is...
Duffer and Leonidas, you're comparison of Sparta to other state parks while convenient to your point is totally wrong. There's no way around that...
Stupid comment Duffer, this state park was planned to be profitable from day one. Of course it's fun to rewrite history isn't it?
The HOF is toast. How many people do you really think will visit it? If they have a Grand some shooters will walk through then it will just lie...
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