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Never said major shoots, never said 50 yard targets, never backed out of anything, and it is dishonest of you to imply that I did. If you want to...

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said "major shoots." Some clubs have ATA shoots at which they throw straightaways from 1 & 5. That's a fact...

FG: Why is the statement false? I've shot ATA at clubs that throw straightaways from post 1 and 5. Nobody says a word about it. By the way, I've...

Let's be honest. The ATA almost certainly isn't even considering going backwards. Frankly, why should they? Despite the noise caused by a handful...

Demographics, economics and segmentation of the sports/entertainment market account for most of the decline in ATA shooting. But if having PITA...

We shot yesterday at +19°F, and a few weeks ago at +11°F. But today I think it is officially too cold to shoot! I don't think I've ever felt that...

OK Dr. Longshot, let's examine your wish and your actual shooting record to determine if you've got a sound case: Over your last 2000 ATA handicap...

Agreed, but it was likely done as a tactic against legal recourse. -Gary

Doctor: I asked a very simple and clearly worded question. I have no idea how you got from it that I'm asking you to stop snuggling beneath the...

Amen. I'm in if it happens. -Gary

Hi Lew. I'm just a regular guy who's got an opinion or two like the next guy. But since you brought up uncle Neil, I did notice that he shoots from...

I'm betting it was your ophthalmologist. -Gary

Don't get angry, just answer a legitimate question: If you're on the 22 yard line shooting "pu$$y targets," which is exactly where you are, where do...

For the record, I don't agree that "his whole trapshooting career is a sham." -Gary

Nah, I'm pretty sure it was the switch away from glass target balls that did us in. Before Neil Winston outlawed the glass, Trapshooting was at the...

Good for you, Dr. Mediumshot. While you're at it, tell them to move you from the 22 to the 27 ...since the slow 2-hole targets and excessively...

Not sure anyone was really defending it; simply pointing out that it is neither unique nor the most egregious example in sports. There is no...

Don't forget NASCAR. Many shady situations including letting Richard Petty get away with blatant cheating at Charlotte in the early-mid 80s....

No kidding. Lots of hocus-pocus and cover-ups in the National Felons League. Does ANYBODY really believe Ray Lewis didn't murder that dude? -Gary

Good for you, Greta & Jack. Despite what some on here would have you believe, the ATA is not the devil. They're just struggling to deal with the...

THE POINT IS, despite all your bluster and schoolgirl drama about mega yardage and making the game harder, you took the reductions and you're a 22...

So just say ATA if that's what you mean. "Sparta gang" can be taken different ways. -Gary

What does Sparta have to do with this other than being the unfortunate scene of the culmination of the crime? -Gary

Ray isn't the source I was talking about. -Gary

Consider the source. -Gary

One would have to be a blithering moron to believe that. -Gary

Right on, Hap. And whatever the potential legal ramifications might be for stripping the dirtbag of the title he stole, the ATA needs to... DEAL...

If, by some strange act of reason and good sense, this all ends with the ATA finally stripping the infamous cheater of his stolen title, I for one am...

OK, I picked up a red/yellow/green box of USA-made Estate "Super Sport Competition Target Loads." Significantly different powder, in terms of both...

Those are trebuchets. Polish shooters used them for handicap. :p -Gary

AYE! -Gary

OK Rosey, I just thought it might have become an issue because the owner isn't there and the staff is thin. I don't know much about insurance. -Gary

Laserwizard makes a ton of sense. -Gary

If they really doubled the price it may have been to cover liability insurance. Somebody with an unused acre nearby could make a few bucks. -Gary

Don't be silly. We all know the earth revolves around HIM. :p -Gary

I hear ya User 1. I've probably been guilty of that a few times myself. Usually only for people who are clearly askin' for it though. -Gary

He's been reelin' them in over there for years. -Gary

I once tested off the charts for Ibuprofen. -Gary

I'll take that as a yes. While you're on here, please explain why you don't offer the RAD system. -Gary

Indeed. Why did Neil Winston drop the rule about mandatory corsets for female shooters? Damn him! -Gary

Dr. Long shot day? Is the adjustable comb business up in Michigan slow or something? -Gary

Rick, I happen to be Libertarian-minded on most things and, until a couple years ago, I would have totally agreed with what you said. But then I...

"I am not a basher." Now that's FUNNY! [IMG]

Looks like they are for a canopy, for shade. Trap field likely faces north.

Must have been an upscale club, with those standards to put up a canopy for shade. -Gary

I'm not saying that rib is ugly... but if it was a baby its incubator would need tinted windows. [IMG] -Gary

All grown up... [IMG]

That kid looks like he's half Holstein and half Angus. -Gary

Laserwizard: 42" minus the drop due to gravity (2-4" depending on shot size and velocity), right? :rolleyes: