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Gary and Leonidas, This isn't about Calcuttas. In the big picture, there are few Calcuttas. Like marathons, few to be found, No one wants to run...

Consider this: If we threw the harder 3 hole targets, there would still be "Big Dogs" like Harlen, Ricky, etc, etc. They shoot a whole lot more...

Perhaps we should always throw Champions. We wouldn't need to add 3 yards or go 3 hole! Think about it.

Hitlery Clinton?

The more targets you shoot, the more fees the ATA gets. Thats why the qualifcations are what they are. Unfortunately, it also takes money and time,...

Family Guy, I did not throw that question out there so someone could give Neil a hard time. My question was proposed so I could get some reasoning...

Neil, Why would you post the above information? You were either for 2 or 3 hole or not. The logical thing to do was to determine an angle off the...

When the decks are "stacked", it's hard to change the deal.

Speed kills, but not always by reducing lead. Your brain gets accustom to the required lead and faster pellets carry more energy. We chrono'd some...

3" - 4" if you do the math from what I've heard.

I heard there is a left hand prototype somewhere. My Mod 12 is a 1 of 5 engraved Bicentennial made in 76'. It had been fired and I shot ATA with it...

We could only wish.

Had the same issue. Get a 9000 H and set up your seat for grabbing hulls and wads so your hands stay below your shoulders. You're shooting career...

Good point Hap. We don't have to change the target angle, just define it and administer it! Many (most) of our small meat shoot clubs shoot 3 hole...

I agree with Dave, deepbackwood and Hap, but we also have this scenario.: My son is 30+years old. So are 3-4 other new shooters at our club, and...

Roger, I think a quick shooter could deal with longer yardage past the 27. The slower, guys not. If I am correct you'll cut the long yardage...

There will always be top dogs and better shooters. Some earn it through practice and paying attention to improve it, and some have more natural...

We make targets easier to break so short yardage shooters can compete with the 27 yarders, but now the birds are also easier for 27 yarders. So we...

I would suggest both clubs list their address for GPS reasons, and get this info and date on the OSTA website somewhere too. Club phone numbers...

Are there any camp sites near the club? I assume since Duck Dog's 1100 has passed the sniff test, my SX-1 can come out of the safe?

Neat! I was surprised those weren't empty beer cans.

Jaquas didn't shut down the trap shooting because of lack of interest. It was a business decision based on a land sale offer. I'm not sure what other...

As much as it has been discussed in the past, I can't believe some still think that OHIO didn't bring any new locations to the table when the...

It's all about money. Watch the camp sites and the vendors.

There is a difference on 2 hole vs 3 hole, but I would say the voice activated release made a larger difference. learning to shoot 3 hole targets on...

For those who feel it is unrealistic.....what if the State of Illinois said "ATA, make us an offer". It doesn't need to include anything but the...

The way it looks, everything and anything is on the chopping block! The ATA may be able to buy part of the facility for a song!

If the allegations are true, I can't imagine Mr. Bickle's picture going on the cover of Trap and Field, or a write up with an explanation of what...

This will be good exposure for 2 fine clubs that will have to pick up the slack left by Jaquas.

Ages 6 and under?

The draw to Sporting clays is the variation and competition factors. It is very difficult to shoot good continuous scores in sporting due to the...

Hap, Have you ever put those STS light handicaps on a chrono?

I don't remember the red head, but Granny made "schwantz warmers". I was so fond of mine, I had Mary embroider my name and a return address on it...

Hap, I know what you mean about the 8'-12' rule. Shooters continually asked to have the birds raised, especially on doubles, and they just do it....

Hap, I agree that the club may have some purposeful involvement, but how would the club benefit from a set-up deal? I can't imagine the GAH...

I'd be more concerned with losing out of state shooters and Ohio shooters that aren't concerned about all this "ATA stuff". The last thing we need...

Talk is cheap. Initiate it.

Leonidas, Are you saying that since the NFL and NASCAR have had some cheating issues, that it is OK for our GAH champ and 2 clubs to falsify...

Dan, My statements were based on the assumption that the ATA is still going to "do something" about it. I'm in agreement with your following...

Those that don't work don't get birds at cost. Nothing in this world is free, and it's good for the kids (and their parents) to realise that.

I doubt any delegates or ATA officials knew anything about this till the cheaters where ratted out by someone. If a delegate or ATA official then...

I wouldn't care if they did, but it would probably be problematic since all the camp sites are rented under the assumption thier shoots will be ATA...

Zimmie, I was wondering if you would catch that. For a few adult beverages, I can be silenced.

No big deal.....it just wasn't handled in the best way. The stone lot is a ghost town between trap shoots. I've got an idea. Charge the tree...

Gary, Their liability insurance is not affected by a even 100 campers sitting there for 2 weeks or more. I doubt that was even discussed with the...

You are preaching to the choir, and it's a very small church!

To get the EC and BOD's attention, it would take a massive boycott by the registered shooters. That's not gonna happen. In reality, I think most of...

The protestors left, but didn't do anything to make changes. It's like taking your ball and going home. A united effort is required to make...

Problems with ATA that I have read: Cost to shoot is getting too high, game is made too easy with 2 hole targets and is even easier with electronic...

Luke, I would give some special attention to area clubs and their ATA shoot dates. Don't want to compete with "feeder clubs" that will ultimately...