Like dad said "Tell the truth. They may not like it, but they won't call you a liar!"
Roger, I don't get Trap and Field. Could you give us a brief description?
After being told many times in the past 10 years that it is our (Ohioans) fault the attendance at the Grand was slipping, I see we have now gone...
Stelts, I don't disagree with your thinking, but chances are.... one of the top 10 clubs in the nation would hold the shoot anyway. Like you, I'd...
Use the state shoots and Sat. Grands as a "qualifier", the rotate the location yearly of the Grand based on camping sites, amenities, and management....
Why was there any interest in Linn Creek in 73' anyway? Was the ATA considering moving in 73'?
No need for more than 875 fps at that range. BigDon would not have to stand on rocks......Is that FAB in the beaver hat ready to light the load?
Death by cannon if you don't read Gary's posts!!!![ATTACH]
Actually, the cost is $230/sf since no land cost was included. Parking, fire suppression, and site work are considered inclusive costs, so why was...
[ATTACH] I've know BigDon for over 20 years and would consider him a good friend. When he and Gary had the "grudge match", it was agreed to be for...
Ohio shooters met some stiff competition. Event winners were from (8) different states: RI, NH, CA, OH, SD, IN, PA, and KS. Ohioans won (2)...
Presquadding is great....if you are retired, or have a buddy that can sit and wait for presquadding to open up ...(or better yet...wink, wink,......
I believe I read that something like 92% of ATA members haven't broke a 100 straight, let alone a 200. 3-4 years ago, I broke down the numbers at...
All this bickering and it's really about time and money. It now takes a day to get there and $400 in fuel instead a 2.5 hours and possibly shooting...
The IRS has nothing to do it. Who determines Joe Blow is going to the Silver Dollar for the state shoot and will get this and that reimbursed? Is...
Nope, but as a member, there should be open knowledge about it. BTW, I was heavily involved to DU for 15 years. My position required me to go to...
AZCO, Yes. Just read it again. People with money and time creating alliances, and the same core continues in charge. BTW, where does it say that...
AZCO, So we should blame the delegates? Sounds easy. Lets get a rope!
All this banter and semantics. The real problem is that more and more trap shooters question the organizational matrix of the ATA, including how the...
There's only one person from Ohio there?
They don't post here, and probably don't check this site ( or the "other site"). So why ask?
Actually, that's a good suggestion. Especially regarding things like squadding, options, rules, etc. Maybe there should be an ATA section and...
True. And if you have "OH" behind your name, you are automatically the reason for lack of attendance at Sparta.
Very interesting stuff Ken. It amazes me you have even found one to take pictures of. Where do you find this stuff? Now, who caught the sparrows?...
The starling championship would be fun. Since I was a kid, I've been taught to shoot every starling I saw. Starlings are filthy. English sparrows...
Make White Flyers illegal. Everyone has to shoot Federal Champions.
The electronic screens at the Cardinal shoots, and the broadcast channel shows each shooter's yardage and score, and I believe that's the case at...
Excuse me, and no offense meant toward Karla and oleo, but why would some people be "in the know" instead of the total membership? That alone wreaks...
The Govenor of Illinois has already put the WRSC into a death spiral that will be hard to stop. By putting it on the Budget Radar. Not only will...
So, The DNR will get to decide how to spend the $1.4 million budgeted originally for the WSRC?
One thing that has become obvious at the Cardinal shoots is that Banks 5, 6, and 7 are avoided like the plague by a majority of shooters. Whether it...
I don't see how that can be the case. I seriously doubt the ATA shoots and the other venues bring in $50,000,000 as advertised, but there has to be...
I would disagree 357. It needs to be a separate event. However, many of the top guns will be selective of where they shoot it. That is the problem....
Dave, If you consider 15 minutes for a squad to shoot, and move to the next bank: 1600 shooters devided by 5 shooters (320 full squads) on 12...
RJ Stuart 2003 Ohio State shoot Championship shooters: 1600 singles, 1400 handicap, 789 doubles 2011: 1,242 singles, 1061 handicap, 614...
It's actually not much different than what happened at Vandalia. The ATA did not control their property, or their future. The Dayton Airport and...
It would be a devastating inconvenience. The membership would be in total doubt and confusion, and the ATA would have to remove their traps, find...
Roger, True. Since the ATA yardage gifts, we usually have 2 squads of 25 - 27 yarders at most shoots. The Zone shoot is the exception. The problem...
I doubt either of the clubs I frequent would allow pavers or rubber mats to be used. I wouldn't meet their standards. Light poles, benches, and other...
[ATTACH] Roger, I figured the quantity as a continuous pad in lieu of 5 separate pads 10' x 3'. You need to get out of the 70's. Those aren't union...
Roger, I have a trap field layout on ACAD. A "field" is close to 60' wide at the out side of concrete from post 1 to post 5 @28 yards. With the...
$210 will do an entire trap field on the cheap. $3.50 each x 4/station x 3 yardages x 5 stations. Won't last forever, especially in the northern...
$5 - $5.50 / sq ft. 700 sf/field +/- . $3,500 - $4000 per field if done by a contractor. Scalp topsoil, grade with compacted gravel, form, pour,...
Don, I had to change my post. 3,490 classified, but 3,162 registered targets. so, I assume some classified but didn't pay or shoot. I know a lot...
From V10 3,162 participants shot at the Grand 3,490 classified (edited) 1,813 paid to shoot the GAH 1,647 shot the GAH
This is sporting, not trap. The prize money will draw some great Sporting shooters. Completely different game.
When I grow up, I want to be just like Hap. (except the neck and shoulder pain)
They could reimburse everyone that paid an buck or 2 per round for the "Relocation Fee" ?
Good shooting Hap!
I like the way Michigan does it too.
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