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That's not vitriolic. It's a simple question. Posters here vowed to elect a champion to represent their concerns and "Roger" is a new name. Of course...

Well, Ollie, if they quit hosting ATA events rather than spend money on the 27-yard line, what you think would happen if the ATA, based on no...

Patterning will tell you if your gun and ammo, together, are any good for long-yardage handicap. But you you guys don't care, that's fine with us....

I would tell you who I am, tarpmaker, but I have been forbidden to do so. The people here seem to know my name anyway; if you don't, you haven't been...

FG, I have never admitted any such thing. I have never thought it. You guys just call our top competitors cheaters to explain the failure of the...

First of all, Ollie, I think it's amazing that Eastern Clubs don't have a 27-yard line. They all do at every club I've been to in registering about...

Let's see if I have this straight, FG. You, who hides his identity, have the chutzpah to accuse the top 40 shooters in the ATA of "cheating" because...

So if you have a right to care, why don't we have a right not to care? It's history guys. It's been that way for 19 years and has all the signs of...

Go ahead, Gary. Leave. It's fine with me and many others, I'm sure. Don't let the door hit you on the butt on the way out. N1H1

A principle of testing is to keep everything the same except the variable you want to test. A second principle is to have, if possible, a "control...

Well, Hap, then the constituents were not effective in convincing him or her. Another example on not getting stuff done while others were. You have...

This thread is not about me, FG, and the rules here prevent us both from straying from the thread's subject. It is about Past-President Crausbay and,...

These votes were no secret, guys. They were scheduled to happen in August 1995 and 1996. Where were you? Why didn't you clue your Delegate in? Make...

Well, I don't know why they didn't, olde. The motion was the same as in 1995 and they had a year to think about it. It had been the talk of the ATA...

Olde, the Delegates had a year and a half experience with straightaway from 1 and 5 before the August 1996 in which they approved 34 degree targets....

Good job on that call, Dr. Longshot! Interesting and well balanced information which addresses questions some of us had, and well and clearly...

Let's see Gary. I wrote a letter to all the Delegates. I had it published in Shotgun Sports. I made a motion at the annual meeting. And this is...

You see the problem your misquotation has already caused, Historybuff? Based on your well-earned reputation for comprehensiveness and accuracy, two...

That's not faintly right, at least as it refers to me, Historybuff, as attested to by my letter printed in Shotgun Sports, which I have posted...

It was an affirmative vote by the body with the power to run things, taken at a properly-called meeting in August 1996, which "screwed with the...

HB, the reason my memory about all this is so hazy is that I never saw any of what everyone still talks about. You know, sensitivity to this or that...

HistoryBuff, the other thing mentioned here, that the Pat Trap and the WW put the bird in a different place is also, according to my memory, at least...

There was a time when the records were fully digitized whenever a shooter asked about his or her own. They once were set up to do that without much...

Roger and HistoryBuff, here's the plan for the frame houses the ATA sent to clubs who asked for advice on how to build one. [IMG] I changed the 10...

Birddog, I thought you were probably not familiar with the old rule since the Shooter Information Center only has you down post 1992 (and my whole...

Mr. Borum, I think your comment is misleading. You wrote: "It would be nice to not have a job, have plenty of wealth and time to travel extensively...

Jhunts, I was surprised by the text you attribute to me above: "N1H1 said: ↑ Non-spinning targets are not "hard to break." I can't find it, though...

. . . and so, once again, an americantrapshooter.comer bites that hand that feeds him. N1H1

Well, Lew, I think you never shot under the one-time malfunction rule so you would have no reason to know what I am talking about. The heart of it...

Hap, my questions have not generated any interest here at all so we might as well just get on with. Post whatever you want, any time you want. It's...

Absolutely no problem at all, HistoryBuff. I asked for a big job and you did it as you interpreted the question and believe me, I don't blame...

Thank you for your response, Roger. You may recall the traphouse blueprint which has two sets of specs, on the left one for pitted houses, on the...

Well, if it's in the minutes I guess I did. It's true that I sent the delegates many letters over the years on many subjects, at least some of them...

I don't know if I ever shot over the Old Western Automatic trap. If you are talking about the "International" one I certainly did and it was just...

". . .you seem to equate my carefully-chosen term, "advocate" - the one I used and is now being used to attack me here on americantrapshooter.com- is...

Roger, I have the rulebooks. And I have what I believe to be the WW blueprints (at least they are the ones the ATA sent to clubs) and will scan and...

Thank you very much for all that work, HistoryBuff. It was a lot of effort but I knew I could count on you to look it all up and put it together so...

Thank you, Hap. Your holding off will make this a far more interesting discussion and I look forward to you returning after a while. N1H1

I don't quite know what you mean by "difficult to break." Could you expand on that? Maybe with some specific examples from your own experience? My...

Great post, Bd. All Delegates are elected every year in every state, province, and now country. The election is at the required annual meeting in the...

It's a little more than that, Rosey. You need quite a few targets to be sure that the performance the All-American Committee (who are working...

Hap, while I don't doubt the sincerity of what you say, it seems like gun-club talk to me, not the result of serious analysis confirmed by experiment...

To readers here: You may have not been paying close attention and so are confused by some of the posts in this thread, particularly the ones...

Rosey, while maybe I should be honored that that some on this site claim that I am responsible for the angle of the targets we now shoot, I doubt the...

Family Guy, as I said before, I look forward to HistoryBuff's research on my advocacy, in print, of two-hole targets. N1H1

Rosey, in 1995, as both my letter and minutes of the Annual Meeting attest , I did not express which I favored, only that the action of the EC, which...

My 1995 letter, as printed in Shotgun Sports and posted on this website, was certainly "instrumental in getting the 3-hole rule rescinded" and I have...

I am an advocate of the present ATA rulebook and suggest those who want it to read differently to put their backs to changing it. N1H1

To readers here: I have now twice deleted a couple of posts I put up last night and deleted at about dawn (CDT) today. I deleted them since I think...

I am an advocate of the present ATA rulebook and suggest those who want it to read differently to put their backs to changing it rather than merely...