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I heard from the grape vine that the targets were set soft and low until last day when they had a little more spring.

I was looking at the numbers from the shoot and one that stuck out is the winner of class AAA doubles on the 200 bird event. I hope it is a typo but...

I don't know what went on but I do know that Shooters today are really spoiled. I've suggested that you get to squad with whoever you want in 16's...

I think that their are several shooters that will do just fine on harder birds. One named Joe from here in Ohio would do just great, that's how he...

The ATA had been making a bunch of rule changes in the late 90's early 2000's before the move that had a major affect on registered shooting. A move...

I know a lot of name shooters from the past and present who say one thing to me but fail to step to the plate and go on the record. I had this...

I talk to Bill a few times each year on the phone. Great Guy.

Very, Very fine. A good rumor always contains a bit a truth that history tells you it is believable and possible. Merlo is just about always right...

I guess I was right.

Only Merlo knows and he'll tell us when it's convenient for us to know, I guess. He (the Top) may have Hung Himself (ya right) in that NY jail last...

Mike J please just ask yourself why in the world would Jack Fishburn, who has no ties to Illinois, offer to help out the people of Illinois. Jack...

Flyer I think I just got a left handed complement. Mike J, I do know what I'm talking about, in fact I'll tell you how this all started. A member...

Mike J Jack flew home Monday afternoon, I don't know what plane you were looking at. You really should see someone about your drinking. You are...

Going from memory without actual paper in front of me at this time. The CC wanted 15K a day to rent the place to the ATA That would be 10 days a year...

And the winners were. NO roll call vote, not even any mention about offer. Two ATA delegates, one from the east, one from the west told me...

Jack is A1.

Going on memory OSTA had about 3/4 mill splint between OSTA and foundation. I think you can get a finacial sheet by asking. OSTA is very...

Butch I hope more old-timers will tell them the error of their ways. Thanks.

I just want the CC to avoid making a real dumb ass move.

Mike when I say the top at the CC I mean Jack and the boys that run the place. Jack is not looking to buy anything in sparta, although he probably...

Bad idea in so many ways. I hope it was just a red herring thrown at Gibson to kill the deal. I told the CC management my opinion. Not printable...

Jack can afford to buy it but he lives in Morrow County, Ohio and has spent his life there. I doubt that he would want to bail out Sparta, Illinois....

The Cardinal Center received a call from the TOP at Sparta to send them a proposal. A member of the EC was looking for a backup plan. The CC sent...

Columbus I think what you have uncovered on this thread is maybe a lot more important than we realize. I would like to know how many of those...

My advice to the boys at the CC was save your breath and don't bother going. Make Gibson and the EC come to you, see what their offer was. What...

First of all I was really impressed with the level of Trap Shooting and Gun Club management experience I see in the assembled group. That alone...

Good Luck

The Ohio State Shoot had 1600 in the Handicap in 1975 ran on I believe 40 traps, but might have been 48 but it was the second event as doubles was...

Well what was the answer, yes or no? Did they have a meeting? Talk about anything? Minutes available anywhere? Anyone talk to their delegate?

Maybe it will come out of Gibson's grand bonus check.

If you all remember I tried to warn everybody when Taylor was elected to the EC. I was called a hater and naysayer.

I'd think the whole ATA should know after the annual board meeting, if not then I'll tell all I know.

The offered deal is too good for Gibson to accept, no kick backs from a Jack Fishburn run organization. Too good for the EC to refuse. Makes good...

I bet Merlo knows what is all about, but it looks to me like those three take turns being in the Middle. They sure seem happy.

Sounds like a good system.

Dave Berlet was telling me about a Garmin contraption that he tried at Sparta that worked so well that the Moulton Trap Kids are buying one. About a...

DEDPAIR, Check out Merlo's new thread. I think a clue is in it. If you are there try and find out the answer for us.

I think it is in your head but I'd recommend playing with your height hold. I'd bet, unless you are one eye'd you'll need to hold higher than 2 feet...

I don't think Ohio would have near the shooters they did when the grand left. All the states including Ohio and Pa have shed a lot of ATA members in...

Merlo has a pretty good track record, in fact I can't think of anytime he has been wrong about something no matter how far out there he seems at...

No camera's this year, I was looking forward to seeing the 15,000 campers.

Even though I view Joe's comments as sucking up for some reason, I will say that there are many on here that are happy to give free advice because we...

I also think you should hang on to his old gun just in case. Sometimes shooters trade a gun for one they think they can shoot and then regret...

I remember the Wabbit resembled an out house a few years back didn't it?

Betty is to Ohio's HOF what Kenny used to be to the ATA's. If you have never been to one of the OSTA HOF receptions during the Ohio State Shoot you...

Kenny you and I have talked about the mess that Bradford and HOF trustees have made of the HOF Museum situation a lot and I know how much it bothers...

Bernie Madeoff (spelling may be wrong) was worth Billions until he wasn't. I don't believe anything that the EC and the Director prints and I'd...

Old news is New news to those who haven't heard it. With all the new readers coming every month it's old news to those of us on here for years but...

The new SCTP contract calls for 3 to 5 international bunker fields, more than enough for the world championships. The NSSF runs the SCTP and are the...