Because of the word Handicap which strives to make the competition equal. Why not just do away with the Handicap system and handicap events? Replace...
Gary, I think that's what Dave was getting at when he said: There are too many people shooting from the 27 yard line who do not carry the average...
Roger, that is the reason for my post about taking removing the word Handicap and replacing it with Longer Yardage or something similar to get rid of...
As expected, there have been varied answers given by well respected and accomplished trapshooters to my question: How can the handicapping system be...
You guys in favor of more concrete are most likely correct, but it looks to me like it's going to take more than 3-5 additional yards to bring the...
Since the goal of a handicapping system is to equalize the competition, regardless of the skill level of each shooter, and if there is not a good way...
Even if they are given handicap points to add to their actual score to determine the winner of the event. Plus distributing the available money by...
What would happen if all handicap shooters were required to shoot from the 27 yard line and assigned to a 27 yardage class A to E, based on their...
But 40 percent of the shooters have an average of less than 90 at the 16 yard line. So to make the handicap system more equal, wouldn't the shooters...
Someone posted yesterday the follow using 2016 data:: "If you consider only shooters with 500+ singles, 39.8% have an average less than 90. 20 yards...
The goal of a handicapping system is to equalize the competition, regardless of the skill level of each shooter. The goal of a handicap system is not...
Roger, it may help the time element but I personally do not like this rule which allows shooters with different handicap yardages to shoot on the...
Shotshell, that is a great attitude. You are on the right path.
Mike, shooting good scores require good fundamentals. Have these new ATA shooters watched the DVD's by Harlan Campbell Jr., Phil Kiner or Leo...
I would recommend that you call Benelli Customer Service and ask them your questions. Phone: (301) 283-6981 (option 2) or (800) 264-4962 (option 2)
Rookie, I don't know what you are planning to use this gun for if you bought it, but I have owned several 12 ga Benelli's for waterfowl hunting over...
Roger, I agree.
Flyer, "Management's attitudes can play a significant role in an organization's growth or decline. Negative attitudes tend to create a negative...
I had a new Benelli M2 20ga with a 26 inch barrel that I bought for upland hunting. Gun weighed 5.8 lbs. Nice to carry in the field but it was too...
2001 - Sol Holcomb 2002 - Phil Wright
Please enlighten us on how you came to that conclusion.
And they also finished in 4th place in the Husband and Wife contest.
An ATA member recently wrote the following. Note: the bold emphasis and underlining are mine: "Members pay dues to become members and stay in the...
What I found interesting was Summer Gobrecht, from Ohio won the HIGH ALL-AROUND with a score of 397.
Did that ever happen when the Grand was in Ohio?
One should not have to use the current undocumented process just to get the current change process added to the rule book and posted on the ATA...
It would be helpful if the the current process for requesting changes, was documented in detail in the ATA rule book and on the ATA website?
Bat, thanks for giving me your opinions on the two questions I asked you.
Bat, I respect and appreciate your comments. It's hard to believe that the ATA does not have a data base of all of their current members. Strike out...
And in my opinion, this current changes process as you described above is the heart of the problem. Why, because most ATA members do not have the...
Bama, I don't know N1H1 definition of central Midwest, but the ATA defines the Central Zone as the following: CENTRAL - Illinois, Indiana,...
HB, Thanks for the clarification on what N1H1 was voting on.
wpt, Are you saying that ATA management had the answer to the question N1H1 asked before they voted to move the Grand to Sparta? N1H1 question was:...
In defense of N1H1, he did ask the right question as posted above in the minutes by Merlo, even though this question should have been asked and...
N1H1 and the others who voted for the motion to move the Grand to Sparta without having a well though-out plan identifying who was going to do what...
STCP Parent, I agree that N1H1 did not say he had the plan at the meeting. But he did say: "We will have to build a new shooter base around central...
"We will have to build a new shooter base around central Midwest." N1H1, who was suppose to do what by when to build this new shooter base? My guess...
OK, I think I now understand. Thanks for your help.
Help me understand why the number would be 22 and not 10. Thank you.
Based on the 2017 numbers that ebsurveyor listed in post #27, 64 of the 379 entries or 16.9 percent of the shooters made at least $11 more than the...
I would use a lottery system to distribute the $60,000 to 60 shooters at $1,000 each. No skill involved, and all who play have the same odds getting...
There are ways to bury illegal or questionable expenses for reporting purposes, just ask an auditor from one of the big four accounting firms.
Could you post the PA business plan. I could not find it on the PA website. I am very interested in what the PA business plan looks like. Thank you.
Just Joe, has another option. The states do not need the ATA. All ties between the ATA and the state trapshooting association could be cut very...
Where can the rest of us read about this?
Union Strong, Check your inbox. Thanks
Well stated. And that reason needs to be a good reason not their typical phony baloney reasons.
Family Guy, My fight with the ATA has just ended. I will support Joe and the others who are charting a new course. Garry
wpt, I think you are most likely correct, which is a sad situation. But maybe the rank and file membership should just by-pass their state delegate...
Gary, I agree with most of your ideas listed above, but the catch 22 is the current ATA process for getting changes approved and implemented will...
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