Andy, I think most traps were equipped with interrupters by the time Brad went on a shooting mission. I did say some were good at reading the trap,...
Andy, the last change toward more difficulty was the interrupter rule in 1969. At the time, there was no rule saying that traps couldn't be read...
Gary, longshot, certainly you can't blame Neil Winston for Winchesters introducing the (Handicap) shells in the early 70s??? You know, the black...
Jo2, it's hard for me to justify cheating our rule settings just because some do and some don't. You may choose to close your thoughts on his view on...
I'd think the average shooter today shows about the same ability to break targets as did those in years past as a group. Only the shooters themselves...
Jo2, read my posted words again? You may change averages to wins if that's better suited for selecting All-Americans. Neil Winston told us...
Gary, very interesting material on the K guns grandfather you've dug up! Thanks! HAP
A faster and wider set target requires even more precise pointing. Some have the ability to correctly point those most of the time but not every...
Brad, I wholeheartedly agree, that statement has always been true in any shotgun sport! The yardage mandate in 1955 was more drastic than a 3 yard...
FG: Thank you for posting a few of the questions I've asked for quite some time! There's way too many "ifs" to merely state this or that as a...
LMAO@Doc!! Priceless stuff guy!! HAP
LOL. how well I know that's true! I watch all the top shooters intently in how they accomplish smoke time after time. A few of them know when I'm...
Brad, do you think your eye dominance may play any part in why the shorter barrels worked better for you? How you see the actual connection that...
PC, wouldn't that leave us with games called short and long singles? Any change made must not nullify or diminish the accomplishments past shooters...
My hunting guns are light but I carry them a lot more than shoot them. Even with todays regulation set targets, I still prefer a heavy gun to help...
Ken, it would seem you are so right concerning any changes in the near future. Most here probably couldn't tell you when the last change was mandated...
How many "edge on" targets do you reckon our top shots take a poke at? Numbers can have far different meanings depending on what you want to get...
In the history of our sport, the only time shooters were ever asked what flavor they liked was during the period of voting for easier target angles....
Wishbone, how's that working out for the average ATA member's shooting averages? The singles average today is something an 86 or so? I feel that...
Family Guy, if I read your reasoning correctly, I have to wonder why it was changed in the first place? From 44 degree angles to 34? I recall...
If we could get past the "fairness" portion of handicapping our most proficient shooters, the masses (changed to will from may) never catch up with...
I've never thought yardage increases were mandated to make it more fair for the average shooter at all. We have a singles and doubles game with...
Neil, how about Further Handicapping those deemed to have somewhat mastered our game of handicap? That is, under our current rules for fairness...
Neil, your analysis today would have had a lot more merit and validation at the last yardage increase than today! Look at all the gun/ammo/shooter...
Neil, thank you for the chart and your work. I'd hafta say it's probably a good thing you weren't around in 1955 when the yardages were increased...
Winchester was the first ammo maker I recall, what Family Guy called "juicing" the shells sprung on us. Those were simply called Handicap Shells....
WS, as always, we're all glad to see our friends from the left coast and looking forward to BSn &shootin some with you guys too! HAP
"trapsetter18 said: ↑ At that point he will get a reduction. Isn't that the purpose?" You took this as a smart$%& answer? I certainly can't see...
WS, one dinner wouldn't work for me or ruin my chances either! However,, 2 or 3 fillet mig nons & a couple O prime rib dinners might do the trick for...
western shooter, us western shooters are tired of those guys carrying off all our cash! We're doing a target count to add a few painted aluminum...
deepbackwoods, handicap trapshooting has always been about shooter self improvement and awards. (More Yardage) There's never been any rule...
I've always felt the top rank shooters can read their last look at a target (barrel/bead/bird relationship) when the gun fires more so than how a...
HB, those scores are, were the norm with soft chilled shot. I guess that's why Arnold Reigger always used a 2-3/4 dr load when he was whuppin up on...
Gargoyle, good to see you're back! Tron will be along shortly with a new picture for you! HAP
YIKES!! I'd say it's a good thing our prior leadership making the decision to mandate a 27 yard line didn't have to meet the same criteria some of...
Thank you Gary! Really it's pretty simple for me. I dearly love our sport and want nothing but the best it can be for those finding our great sport...
CCfan, Indiana shooter, Devon Harris, won a hundred grand shooting Federal 2-3/4 dr. eq. 1-1/8 of number 8s. It wasn't a chip & chunk score either,...
Jo2, you're correct that those that have somewhat mastered the handicap game have learned how important precise pointing is and apply it to their...
No one on any shooting site can stop the agenda driven people from causing trouble or spouting their opinions. Agendas come in so many different...
I happen to like BigDon also! Met him at the Grand and we talked a lot! Very interesting fellow and I consider him my friend! I told a nephew I'd met...
LMAO@Gary!! That would go pretty good with my shootin well certificate I won!! Another was a ball cap, at least it keeps the sun outa the ol eyes...
Gary, you're correct, a model 12 Winchester. The car was a Plymouth Duster, a 1974. Even if it was a Corvair, considering the difficulty of winning...
I'd guess you must disable both areas to prevent notifications? I did one and it didn't stop my mail box from filling faster. Fixed it now, I think!...
Gary, my old squirrel gun doesn't have one of the fan dangled ribs of any sort! Shot it pretty well considering though. Made it to max yardage, won...
Joe, it's great to see your giving back my friend! HAP
I'm sure you recall Bob Dodd (he broke 100s with 7/8ths ounce too?) from Oregon? He convinced me to try lighter shot payloads years ago. I did and...
Gary, assuming ATA, we, changed to your new rule allowing only a max size of 7s and 1 ounce as a max load, what exactly what would that accomplish...
And this quote farther down the thread. Gary, these two quotes above don't make a lot of sense to me? Are you saying International shooters would...
Adopting new shell speed limits didn't have the same effect on higher scores as did lessening the target speeds and angle! I've shot the same kind...
Shooters arguing among themselves won't accomplish much of anything except for hard feelings. Getting shooters to sign this or that won't either...
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