ATA will return fees paid for events not shot when a shooter is disqualified. If he's disqualified after shooting 65 birds, he loses that entry fee...
I'd be interested in how it was justified by giving the man extra yardage in addition to the 2.5 yards earned by shooting the 100? Known ability can...
At times, yes sir! If you knew the general area where the target will be is a tremendous advantage, yesteryear and today too! Prolly true Gary...
It may possibly save a little time if posting an ATA rule from the "book" to include the date of that rule book? In my latest rule book reprinted...
Gary, the target angles we shoot today are close to the areas the true trap readers wanted to be in for a good score. What you should observe....
I haven't checked my current rule book but recall years ago if there was a score discrepancy during the Grand American handicap, that score couldn't...
I remembered those small trap houses in the early 70s and liked them also for just the reasons you mentioned Brad. Problems arose trying to stuff an...
If 44 degree angles were bad, 34 degree angles are good, wouldn't those 1 hole 7 degree semi-straights be better yet? Just think of all the hunerts...
Dave, a lot of guys here probably can't understand why that trap couldn't throw a 44 degree angle without the clay hitting the sidewall of the house?...
Once locked for the trap setter to place the bird on the arm, these guys were skinning the kids fingertips they called so quick! It took a real good...
Jo2, you're so correct about having to accurately point each and every target regardless of shell velocity. I can't see any real argument with...
Rosey, no I haven't. I have shot some of the STS 1 0z 7-1/2s from the 27 and broke a couple 97s with them. How does the light handicaps chrono out? I...
Ken, I'd agree with that IF those parameters were enforced at all ATA point shoots,, by ATA?? I think back to how Neil W. said his friend, whom he...
Leonidas, funny how some guys have the pointing ability to make a 2-3/4-1145 or one at 1200 also seem to break targets as if they were illegal!...
WS, why should we believe it would work this time when that same rule was violated all across the country including our own ATA officials? For...
I've noticed quite a lot of ATAs top shots are shooting sporting clays too. I know sporting clays is a real challenge when compared to our trap game....
Thanks Brad!! That setting threw a much more stable target for breaking purposes for everyone! A friend and I were shooting doubles here in AZ...
Have you ever stopped to reason out why they like those high targets, especially on doubles? As you said, clubs want your business and will yo-yo...
Too bad for our sport we didn't have the numbers of people reminding us, it's the rule, live with it or lump it a few decades back! Rule violations...
deepbackwoods, the addition of 2 yards is correct since ATA took control of the game. Prior to that, it was sometimes a single yard that brought...
wishbone, in my opinion the answer is no. ATA has the membership and sets the standard with trap shooting. A lot of PITA members shoot both types of...
Rosey, over the years lots of clubs were cheating the rule book as well as a few shooters! Their incentive? Without a doubt it was for club...
Palos shooter, the better shooters of the hand pulled era learned to move with the target when they saw it. Does that mean it didn't bother some of...
The big dogs have ruled and bitched every time handicap yardage was increased, forever! Even before ATA came into being. The move from 22 to 23 yards...
The shooter alone can't turn in bogus scores to ATA! Only the club signatory to throw ATA registered targets can furnish such scores. The take...
As a whole in ATA trap shooting, most members don't know what their own rule books say! Pretty evident too is they have no inkling of our sports...
DOC, I'm game for the Classic after the Grand is over. HAP
squatty, have you read the posts here? Your question isn't even close. 18 yard shooters adhering to the current rules of fair play is certainly...
iowa guy, I haven't heard of such an increase either but it certainly could happen with information from a delegate or EC or CHC. In my view, with...
Wishbone, everyone is entitled to their own opinions are they not? Neither myself or anyone else can control others opinions regardless of what the...
One can receive extra yardage in handicap regardless of score averages, known ability paints with a broad stroke. I feel your spot on iowa guy....
At our AZ state shoot last year we shot off for a new TS2000 for the Lewis class qualifiers. Shoot one shot and they increase the speed 3 turns,...
A shooter pays his money to shoot registered ATA targets by the hundred or fifty and some inept club loses their records/score sheets?? Reimburse the...
I made one of my suggestions above for further handicapping the gifted ones in our sport. Roger and Andy have been in the sport a very long time and...
My opinion on this, "if we had a 30 yard line", isn't the same as the last time yardage our was increased. We shouldn't put clubs in a financial bind...
I think most posters on all shooting discussion sites would love to see both organizations do well. Because a few have an opinion on those...
Bat, I totally understand that line of thinking and accepting. What I don't understand is why the ammo makers, who by the way are members of SAAMI,...
What we accept is the 1-1/8 OZ load not to exceed the speed limit of 1290 FPS (ATA rule) I get that just fine. That 1290 FPS supposedly covers the...
In my opinion, if it's proven that both the clubs and shooters playing a part in such a fiasco, both should be penalized severely! The cheating...
Model 12 Winchester, there for our first ATA Grand in 1923 and still pounding targets in the games played with speed, angle and distance thrown in....
All the assumptions, personal opinions aside, I think of Arnold Reigger and his dominance of the handicap game and how he did that. First with a...
I don't have a problem with the current speed rule at all since I believe shooter error causes more misses than speed or a lack of it for competition...
It certainly isn't a F/F. If the shooter in question has his gun mounted, this happens before his call, it's a fast pull target. Fast or slow are "no...
Clubs could do a better job of training scorekeepers but a lot don't want to take the time because of the bottom line. Deliberately turning down...
Roger C., now that you've got your shop going again, you too can help with such verification. We need to chat. HAP
How many shooters do you know of that's had their scores disqualified for violating our speed limits? I know of none in that area. There have been...
No concrete and a straight line across the field with 5 shooters. Boards for the shooting line! Soft dirt to stand on, what's not to love! Love these...
Larry, yes it was an ATA shoot. Clubs are sanctioned to hold ATA shoots and agree to abide by the ATA rules and pay all the fees. That club didn't...
What was our membership numbers in 1969 and number of shooters attending those two shoots? 44 breaking a 200 straight at the Grand and 0 and 3 were...
How many Brads/Morries andLeos were reading the traps after the interrupter mandates were successful? Not many in my opinion. If it was so widespread...
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