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Gary B., 34 degree angles are easier to point our correctly than 44 degree angles. There, I said it again for about the one hundredth time over the...

Target recipes have continually evolved and do so today too. White Flyer has pretty well worked out a good recipe considering the shortage of pitch...

How would further handicapping those deemed to have mastered our game have any negative effect on singles and doubles scores or averages? Isn't...

I know which group my money would be on if such a shoot took place. 5 more degrees of angle and a couple more yards of distance! If many of the top...

I'd love to see and partake of a long yardage event where everyone shoots from the same line, not from where Harlan is most comfortable though....

Even though we may not agree with certain rules, they are after all, the RULES! Once we begin violating a rule it can lead to all sorts of problems...

Give this man a call @ (210)313-5988 Philip Crenwelge is one of the best gunsmiths in the country! He's a perfectionist and he makes everything...

We can't place any blame at all on whatever kind of machine set at such a speed? HAP

I though yardage group, category and runner up trophy's already has some of the same kinds of trophies won in our other games, 16s and dbls with...

Our game should never be so difficult to not break them all. That wouldn't be very encouraging to say the least for those wanting to be the best they...

Gary, the PAT trap is very capable of throwing a much more difficult target than your giving them credit for! It's our ATA speed limits, especially...

Good luck Roger, happy shoppin to Barb and see you in Sparta. Drive safe! HAP

I don't think that was the case at all with the delegate I know personally that acted on his own and voted his way instead. He didn't know much more...

OP, even though being older doesn't lessen the love we have of shooting regardless of abilities. I recall reading of an older man from S.D. in CA...

Is it possible some state delegates were "clued in" yet voted for the 34 degree angles against their constituents wishes? HAP

Wouldn't matter much if they threw 1 holers (13 degree angles) for us Roger. Almost blind in one eye and havin trouble seeing outa the other for...

Roger, the point I intended to make was the fact all the scores were up in comparison, singles, caps and dbls. That and more shooters shooting those...

Good move N.S.T.A. board! I know the winds during those years really hurt your attendance!! This move should be a tremendous help! HAP

Roger, it's always taken a great score to win major shoots, even from our very beginning! Thing is; there just wasn't as many great scores shot...

I wonder too what the condition of the hand-set was at the time of jhunts test? A worn rubber slide and other parts connected with the arm can play...

The PAT traps can and does throw a legal ATA rulebook target @ 17.x degrees to each side of center. It just doesn't hang around the extremes as long...

I've always said there's not so much wrong with the PAT traps that a little more speed wouldn't correct, especially on 39 mph doubles in the wind. We...

In my much less than humble opinion, it's too bad for our sport that "rules" weren't enforced long before the gang of long yardage delegates got...

It's true, there's so many things for people to spend their recreational excess money on today it's almost mind boggling! So many today, that it...

Andy, wouldn't it be nice to shoot targets with your SX-1 and not miss a target till it was the guns fault? HAP

Thanks TLO! HAP

I think Tucson throws more targets than that per year? I'll hafta check. HAP

There's a new money shoot in town? Do you wanna partake? What, you want to sign up with your buddies? Sorry, nope. Why not? There will be none of...

FG, I don't think consistent targets were bad for our game at all, however I do think easier target settings hasn't helped as some thought it would....

Gary, I've said it before, you've been preaching this wholesale change needed for years. How many delegate (read delicate) minds have you changed?...

I don't care much for the wording of "perfect" when it comes to shooting clay targets. I seriously doubt anyone could say anything is even close to...

The term "hooked" isn't the proper wording to use describing a developing love of the game for youngsters. It's their love of the game that will...

It would certainly be nice to just snap our fingers and get the changes we know necessary to make our game as it once was, or even better. In my way...

LOL, Dan, why not tell us how you truly feel? I wholeheartedly agree with what you say needs done to right our tipping canoe! Gary B. has...

I agree that the ammo companies didn't run a special batch of ammo just for the shooters shooting their shells. They got the same flavor as everyone...

Shooting Coach, I'd bet a dime to a donut hole your Briley tubes are polished better than your bore? Dennis DeVault once wrote that there's a...

I agree they should pay to shoot but at a very discounted rate. To hook someone long term, the more they (parents) can afford to partake, the more...

Gary, I'd think if we're to ever introduce change to our sport, it certainly wouldn't be a wholesale slaughter of the game as most know it today? The...

Ya know cheapstuff, once upon a time trap was shot from the 18? Isn't that almost like saying there should be as many perfect scores from there as...

Rob, how about giving shooters/clubs the ability to add just enough speed to the targets to stabilize them when it's windy? Especially during head...

Do you honestly think members of ATA would travel across the country to shoot fifty bird events, even if they were tougher angles and thrown harder?...

I think asking for anything that will hurt the average shooters is a wasted effort. Be careful who you vote for at your state delegate elections....

I don't understand why you'd say that unless you mean your club or mentioning the one the OP spoke of? In 1955, clubs were granted so many years...

Bill, the way I see it, classes added to the handicap game would cause shooting costs to rise dramatically. I'd think adding extra costs today...

I'll find you at Pats place my friend. Shoot well and have fun too! You're absolutely correct about time. All we can do is speak to others while...

Thanks Kenny R.E.!! Our EC and BOD knows what our average ATA shooters abilities are in their singles averages. I'm sure that knowledge played a...

Roger, I'm going to the Grand, then on to Ohio and I'll shoot some at the Cardinal Classic. I'll see you down the road somewhere. HAP

Gary, the true test you mention would mean scores shot would be lower. Trying to convince me isn't the problem. A wholesale change just ain't gonna...

Thanks HB!! Very interesting read you've posted here!! Could you imagine the look on some of todays shooters shooting that 1940 setting? Heck,...

Small ga. guns are being shot at the Grand and one event had some ATA added money. Imitating the game of skeet can't possibly help our sport of trap...