"I would guess that when they close an investigation without determining any wrongdoing" .... interesting way to put it. "The review did include...
This was the post .... "This answer from the audit came from A.T.A counsel, who delt [sic] directly with the ATT. General . They do not have to let...
GREAT wisdom from "Terry Dean" "They do not have to let anyone know the findings" .... "the complaint and cost you, the ATA shooters 3800" Get over...
http://changingminds.org/techniques/conversation/excusing/deflection.htm "Description" "When accused, deflect the blame by pointing at others. Say...
"a little over 30,000 entry's @ $3.00 per would come to between $90,000/ $100,000" ..... They would receive ???? amount of money for "camping" and...
Just think if that "Chicago news crew" would have a "story" that would read like this .... The Illinois based "ATA" has moved it's premier shoot...
Does anyone, other than me, feel like the taxpayers of Illinois will be the MOST upset if they have to fund the 2016 Grand ???? The Kool Aid Crew...
The one big thing that would make me choose the 2014, would be the "short tang" for stock removal making cleaning and lubing the trigger "easier"....
I am shocked .... or better yet in disbelief .... That a very rich "Highway, Pipeline Contractor in Business since 1967" has not answered the call...
Be nice .... everyone knows how super-rich "Terry Dean" is, he tells the Kool Aid Crew every chance he can get. He can even purchase a truck of...
"Terry Dean" is angry because ... his pathetic plea for support did not go well now that people can see the documents to support what the "bashers"...
A Club that shoots "registered" could not allow them. Each Club can make "safety" rules that are not in the "ATA" rule book.
And, I agree with .... "if the ATA folded tomorrow I bet I could still shoot trap this weekend." I have said several times .... Trapshooting does...
It is easy to see how people think "we lose track" ... but try to let it sink in that on the current path of the leadership, there will SOON be no...
"you are accountable for you actions and hiding behind a screen name won't help if a Court subpoena's your site for all contacts info." .... yea, my...
"The ATA has been profitable every year the Grand has been in Sparta" .... from "Terry Dean's" post above .... From a report dated "July 19, 2010"...
"User1 are big strong folks that if you not agree with their crap will kick you off" ... "I witnessed this when Shotgun Bob disagreed with User1"...
I can take a guest, they can be 8 to 80, to an Event that offers a "pit-pass" or "back-stage pass" ... purchase one and the person gets pumped about...
"My years on the C.H.C with two trips to Florida it always cost me money, the reimbursement from the A.T.A barely covered my motel cost." I find it...
Where else can "5 or 6 people" talk to each other, and no one care or read it, but so many know who said what ???? Many thanks to those who say they...
His words may be "ironic", but it is asinine that his actions are never being questioned by the Kool Aid Crew. If the State of Illinois wants to...
The "ATA" pays "Gipson" 136k plus a year ... and he believes "Barry" will increase the "membership", and "Dean" can save the "Complex" ... I guess...
I agree ... my wife does not. She knows me looking at "shotgun porn" makes me spend money.:D
No ... the "Dark Side" requires you use a single "face". You can be grouchy in the open ... The fear of losing their "ATA" cash cow tit makes some...
"I love this forum " ... yea, and as the used-to-be place implodes from being resold for greed, many more will soon "love this forum". And...
Done
PumpgunBob, this is your one and only warning you will get from me. Grow up or be gone. I can and will ban you.
Please post the list of "Vendor" names that made this request. It will be interesting to know who would benefit from requesting a conflict. And any...
From a shooter's point of view .... "I pay for the targets" .... From the host Club's point of view .... "I need a trained score-keeper at the...
The "ATA" is a "Vendor" .... and not a very smart one. They "sell" memberships to participate at a shooting format and record keeping service sold...
They may have all "read" the "lease", but it may as well been written in a foreign language. Because you need to be qualified enough to understand...
You need to understand a "State" budget to be able to understand a "lease" with a "State". There is not just one big "State" checking account to...
"So has there ever been such a shoot off rule like this?" .... Here are a couple of things that would stop an "absentee shoot-off score" . How many...
"Cheap Yardage" created some big problems. If you avoid "cheap yardage" to be competitive, you are a "sandbagger". If you take the cheap yardage you...
Knowing where someone "stands" is one thing, daily reminders is another. Does the PA-AG know "where you stand" on a "public charity" that operates...
A few people in BFE got together and accomplished something .... getting a few people to do more than vent in cyber-land seems to be much harder....
The "treasures" have little to no value to the State of Illinois. Illinois would probably lose money selling them. It would take 500 people 6 years...
The "Grand" has to happen "at any cost" .... that is, "at any cost" to the membership. Because .... IF it does not, how are the members going to...
There is a "plan", and it is very clear and basic .... people just keep taking the bait and spend their time talking about the smoke and mirrors....
Nothing to see "after the 15th." "ATA officials are satisfied that this resumption of shooting activity at the WSRC cured the lease...
"Junior Atwood" is a great example of why I hate the "ATA". A very good shooter given yardage by mail for spite, and then forced to stay on the...
"Bitching and second guessing on some internet forum won't cut it?" .... I could not agree more .... Getting some prosecuted for their possible...
Vandalia was a destination .... Sparta is a location .... if you know the difference, you will know the difference.
Can I play ???? First, get rid of every person currently "working for" the "ATA". Second, look hard for people willing to work hard for the sport,...
That is an interesting way to ask the question. Why not inquire about how much of a financial interest he may have in this site ???????? If I was...
Congrats on being placed into the History
From "tarpmaker" on a different thread .... "Will Barry Roach be at the Beagle trials or the Glock shoot." "Glock" et al may visit 'other types' of...
What a shame a thread titled "Future of Trapshooting" uses the "damn Grand" as a political football. Again, Trapshooting on a non-ATA level is doing...
Check out the 'Riff-Raff' ... "Gipson", "will", "have the Conservation Police escort them off the grounds"....
That picture shows an event total, and total entries. The number that currently gets used as "attendance", is the number of shooters who shoot one...
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