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RIP, Tommy, sorry I never got to meet the man.

Wrong thread? In any case, how much space is between the 2 different patterns in duplex loads?

It’ll work, but 8 1/2 shot wouldn’t be my preference.

Maybe those leaving early are hoping to be competing against less competition? Doesn’t sound like a true All-American attitude but honestly I’m not...

Well, at least he already has the sporting clays courses there!

I don’t think Doug is doing any more bluing jobs…

Merry Christmas, everyone- I hope you all have a great day and break some winter targets soon!

I need to quit working so I don’t miss deals like this!

Agreed- and some of the shots presented in sporting clays would be nothing more than a Hail Mary shot in the field. I don’t mind, I enjoy the...

Ok, I stand corrected- I still stand by the fact that clay target shooting today is pretty far removed from any type of hunting. In this area,...

Yes, sporting clays was supposed to mimic hunting, but if you go to a larger sporting clays tournament these days, you won’t see too many shots...

Where did you read it’s supposed to be similar to hunting? Also- you aren’t competing with other hunters (normally) when you are hunting where one...

Every time someone offers a suggestion, your reply is that you’ve already done it. Maybe you have, but I think it’s more that not many people know...

Yep- shut her down.

Very disappointing and surprising- I bought several guns from them years ago and had good experiences. Sad to see things come crashing down like this.

Open it up? Not require an invitation to attend?

That could be the problem- how are you going to invite people that would like to shoot there but don’t know you and vice versa?

Right, because the beer tent wasn’t open while shooting was going on, oh wait. Smoking weed during a shoot wouldn’t impair anyone any more than...

Personally, I think it’s going to be as big of a problem as the beer tent at Vandalia was…so not much.

I didn’t miss anything, Oleo. I said I didn’t want my money going to the ATA, and I’m voting/speaking with my wallet by not shooting any more. Saving...

Well, I’d rather him have it and me to think I had a chance to break even every once in a while versus giving it to the ATA that took that away.

Who do you think made more per handicap event?

Yep, I agree 100% Roger.

You’re good at looking up averages, but how much did Bonillas win in 1975 with a 1% lower average than Lamont this year? Ahhh, now we see a...

The numbers for the ATA have been dropping significantly for a long time, after 2005ish seemed to have quite a decrease for some reason, I can’t...

No, I never said anything about creating a new organization, I picked a new one- the NSCA, which wasn’t because of either organization if I’m being...

You said both are still shooting trap, but I looked them up on the ATA website and it looks like they are shooting a lot less trap in the last year...

I’m not Brad, but that ain’t fair- if one club/shoot throws the harder targets in today’s ATA with today’s shooters, the club would go bankrupt. The...

At the PA State Sporting Clays shoot this year I saw Don Shaffer JR and John Manetta Jr on a squad together, seems someone else I recognized from...

You’ve said there was nothing wrong with Zelle, but it’s a known fact that’s how a lot of scammers want paid, and here you are saying you were...

You’re a moron.

Sheesh, what a…crap shoot.

Sooo…what happened?

Compare the percentage of shooters with 98%+ averages now, to how many there were 25 years ago- that percentage is higher now, I’ll guarantee it.

What is the goal here? Are the shooters at your club bored with regular trap? There’s a lot of options- have a games night- shoot Annie Oakleys and...

Two problems- 1). How many trap shooters have sub gauge guns? 2). Have you tried to find any .410 ammo lately?

Sorry about that, I didn’t think you had to pay for a gun until you picked it up at the store. I think it’s actually illegal for them to take money...

See as much added money at the shoots any more? Or cars being given away for prizes? Again- you said the suckers took their own money...

That’s a nice looking trap gun!

Read your own post- the “suckers,” as you put it, that were signing up, were what made the ATA for the possibility to win money. Not that they needed...

That’s the point, they aren’t being replaced by new shooters.

In other words you stick your head in the sand and wonder why there are so few people shooting with you compared to years ago?

Sure, people can spend their money on whatever they enjoy, but based on the recent/current numbers- that ain’t trapshooting. It’s a good competitive...

What’s the point for someone that’s never shot trap before to get to the point where they can run 200’s and big handicap scores? There’s no money any...

Do I feel another Grudge Match coming???

I don’t have that information, I wasn’t saying anything positive or negative about the SCTP, just saying that the SCTP would bring the average down.

If you left the SCTP members out, I’d bet the number would be much higher, probably over 65.

Can’t post it on here but there’s a website where you plug in the Winchester Serial Number and it will bring the year up for you. Google it- it’s not...

That’s a big sporting clays shoot and there some other big ones going on the same time (Western Regional and WI state shoot to name 2). The Cardinal...