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Gary, You don't even have support on this board. 1. There are shooters with a lot of experience and targets who are saying pouring concrete is the...

I think Fezzik went to the Joesph Bowles Art Institute.:):)

Please let me know as soon as the closure is confirmed. I will have to cancel rooms flights etc.

I think there is probably enough room on the World Wide Web for 2 trapshooting discussion sites.:D:D:D

Glad to see it is finally making sense.

The truth is out there. Stay on them.

I hope it shoots as good as it looks.

A little bit right is good enough for the world wide web. Carry on.:p:p

I guess know one wants to give up their competitive advantage!!

Actually the top dogs were the best trap readers. LOL

Gentlemen, You are being told what was done by the ATA. Not why it was done or if it was right etc. If you want to know how the EC arrived at this...

I don't think the ATA could write enough rules to satisfy some people. Clubs are required to keep score sheets for 1 year. The club in question did...

Everyone has access to the rule book. The situation is covered pretty well on pages 10 and 11. If you find yourself in this situation and the club...

Lew, You obviously have a lot more information then I do. I don't know how many shooters or targets were involved. As a shooter I go to a club and...

It sounds like the legal advice the ATA received was different then the legal advice you you received. This can happen. If shooters paid to have...

No scores are posted until the ATA receives it's fee.

Dave Thanks for clearing that up.

Gary, If they couldn't read the trap they would never have needed the interrupter. 3 hole targets are not nearly as hard when you know where they...

It good when you can talk to yourself. You will always get the answers you want. :D:D:D

I have paid 10 times the membership fees than those life members who paid $50.00. I do not think the ATA owes me anything, I have enjoyed the ride....

What are you asking?

I don't think we will see PITA targets at a major shoot in Ohio but it would send a message.

I think we still shoot 3 hole targets a fair bit of the time. Most don't mind or can't tell the difference.

Anything less then 40 degrees is a good day to stay inside.

Truth is sometime stranger then fiction

Thanks Hap That makes a lot of sense.

From the rule book "No target is to be declared illegal unless it is significantly outside normal parameters (e.g., more than 10 degrees outside...

Iowa Guy The Tar and Feathers is trotted out annually if anyone other that a 27 yard shooter wins the G.A.H.

The Big Dogs have ruled handicap from the 27 for a long time I'm pretty sure they don't want to move.:D:D

In theory moving the Big Dogs back to the 30 would give everyone else from 18-27 yards a better chance to win.

No that is not a Failure to Fire. Just carry On.

User 1 I don't think many here would argue with your statement. The question was asked above "What will they do in 2015 to insure the integrity of...

John What information is that based on? The top shooters I watch seem very effective with the faster shells. When I talk to the top sporting clays...

Well they took targets away from more then one shooter. I agree the clubs should be punished. But getting back to your original question...

Raw materials are around $0.80 a pound. You still need to drop the shot and ship the shot. What do you think they should be charging for a 25 lb...

Birddog, We put up with 20 yard shooters from Kentucky for a lot of years doing the same thing. What would you suggest?

The problem with incremental changes is they are long overdue. Change was required 20 years ago. Regarding the Two Yard reductions, when these...

Anything more from the ATA? Maybe an apology from Rob Taylor personally?

And a lot of fun to shoot.

Nah

The clubs that orchestrated this mess should never be allowed to throw another registered target.

No you don't have it right.LOL That is another issue that needs addressing.

Yes everyone is entitled to an opinion. But we need to make a decision and move forward. This discussion has been going on for years and we are no...

Larry The ATA decrees from on high and we toe the line. As mentioned above there might be some relief for smaller clubs. Or they could just have us...

That is great. Lets shake up the old game. I would love to shoot from the 28. And it doesn't have to get tougher for the guys up close on the 22...

Sounds good but you will have to explain it to Gary. What are chances of this happening in the next 5 years? What about the next 10 years? After...

I get you are only interested in your records but it is unlikely that only one shooter was affected. And that the shooter in question has been a...

I don't know the whole story and as I have said earlier I don't think I ever will. It is an unfortunate situation but I believe Charles Bickle got...

Well I think the first step is for Hap and Ollie to rein in DLS if 3 hole targets are not the answer. And we can move forward with ordering the...

I still contend there are plenty of 27 yard shooters like myself who shoot at large and small clubs. We don't chase AA points. We maintain an average...