The Model 12 failed me on Saturday so out came the K-80 Sunday with scores being about the same-lousy. I think I need to get to FL. sooner than later!
Doc, Kay Ohye's handicap average went up .5% in 1996. 3-hole targets worked to his advantage!
Well, I hope you guys are happy with running off our resident expert and having him delete his posts. All I ever asked him for was his suggestions on...
I received my 3 yards and didn't turn 'em down. One more yard and I'll be back on the fence again!
So what does that Kay guy know? He's not even a resident expert! Does he even shoot Trap? Must be one of them skeeters!
Wishbone, PA does not issue ultimatums but accept the wishes from the top!
Neil, if clubs go out of business because they need to pour additional concrete on multiple fields to accommodate legions of 30 yd. shooters ATA...
Yup, the last brilliant ultimatum coming from the top gave everyone a two or three yard reduction and we all know how good that worked!
I've put that plan forward many times. Add three yards of concrete and if that doesn't make handicap more competitive consider making handicap a 1oz....
Yup, it sure did work as planned. Out of the top 100 handicap averages in 1997 only 3 weren't standing on the 27 yd. line. Tell us again how...
We must be doing something right according to some. The 1997 average book is 1" thick while the 2013 book is around 3/4". The ATA numbers are...
Just think, probably 3/4 of those marathoners are deceased or no longer shooting and most of the remnants couldn't tell which which hole they're in....
Neil, no more imaginative than blaming reduced numbers on inferior shooters inability to break a slightly wider angle target. I suppose we can blame...
The biggest withdrawal of shooters during that era likely came from the demise of popularity of marathon shooting-not average shooters missing a few...
My family goes on shoot/vacations every year and no one ever complains about the Silver Dollar in FL or Cardinal Center. Plenty of great restaurants...
Wholesale shot price went down .35 last week. Not enough for us to change price!
Nope, you jack up the front base of the trap and you'll then change the elevation. If you raise the targets you'll then have to lower them and...
I don't have to ask Earl. I ran a 6 field ATA trap club with Western handsets for 20 years. I sanded plenty of rubbers too. If the trapboys were any...
Please tell me how shimming up the front of an old Western handset trap has anything to do with more target face! More target face can only be...
1-hole targets? Didn't our good friend Earl Scripture tend to narrow the angles and shorten the distances much to the delight of some in pursuit of...
The only thing that can actually reduce top shooters averages is moving them back farther from the house. I know of no cliff, precipice, invisible...
Yes, many ATA officials including Presidents on down have the best interests of the organization in mind. I've known a few over the years and they...
The last time someone was put in the position of examining dark deep secret spending he was promptly eliminated. Anyone remember Dr. Frank Rively?
Shooter retention is a huge issue for ATA members. We recruit 'em and they typically disappear within three years. If you look at the average age of...
50% of today's ATA members quit before they reach the 21 yd. line!
If I broke a mid-90's average from the 27 I'd get bored and wanna move back. I'd get tired of all those steak and lobster dinners compliments of the...
Just add three more yards of concrete to the top handicap shooters and everyone should be happy-except them!
Black and white or pasty yellow domed targets with hand pullers shot by 870's. Those were the days!
Doesn't it always seem certain shooters seem to get the preferred banks at some clubs. I realize pre-squadding amounts to some significant income but...
Shooting sports in general are not dying. Gun ownership is at an all time high since Obama encouraged sales. Many Sporting Clays courses are doing...
I remember my first too. Oops, what were we talking about again?
The ATA is primarily a record keeping organization that makes some loose rules without the teeth for enforcement. They have no power like the IRS to...
HAP, did you ever hear of the unknown ability rule? That's the one that was employed in this case. Delegates with approval from the central handicap...
Of course it's very likely plenty was wrong but without real proof it won't hold water. We should thank the ATA delegates that went out on a limb to...
If they were 209M's we's do the deal!
Lew, of course I have the complete inside scoop so your argument is pointless. Let's say one club was in WV while the other was in West PA. The other...
You'll find that CCI's can be substituted for many loads and are much cheaper-that is if you can find any!
Lew, over 70,000 targets were removed from various shooters records at one club alone. Are you saying every one of those targets were fraudulent and...
Lew, I believe if the same thing happened to you and you actually shot those targets you'd be on the phone with the ATA pleading for some...
So 99% of clubs registering shoots out there keep the scoresheets for the required 1 year but 1% think it was OK for the deceased secretary to take...
Scores are submitted to the ATA by the club secretary-not scoresheets. The clubs sent in the required data and fees. Since the club was unable to...
Lew, without scoresheets how could the ATA prove the targets were not actually shot? The ATA did not record the scores of targets without scoresheets...
Hap, sometimes the trap was mounted too far back on the pedestal and that would not allow wider targets. Even more fun was when the pedestal was...
Now Lew, what we think should have been done and what was actually done isn't quite the same. As required by the ATA rules, scoresheets must must be...
Cheap and Remington primers is no longer synonymous!
If you fail to pay the ATA fees or file the shoot report within 8 days of the final day of the shoot you're assessed a $25 late fee. Further...
The very best in those old days were great trap readers. Why not? It took me a few years to figure it out but when I did look out. When the...
Oh, oh!
Careful, I broke a 96/100 on a fluffed up Sporting Clays course once-my claim to fame. Unfortunately, a guy on my squad broke the hundred. You can...
Of course Sporting Clays ate Traps lunch. The ATA's decline accelerated when Sporting Clays became popular. The ATA failed to capitalize on their...
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