Sure looks just like about the same size as the PA State shoot. Well, we did handle 1,604 shooters in the 2006 Singles championship. Bring it on!
Listen son, I started this game in 1963. Please don't tell me anything about wider, faster targets and Trapshooting!
smoking357, another wannabe "bunker boy" who never shot an ATA target in his illustrious career informs us we must speed up our targets to somehow...
So I beat Olympic Trap gold medal winner Don Haldeman in a trap league shootoff in 1969. Even more meaningless drivel!
I'm on Roger's side on this one. Many would disagree including the major ATA powers!
Now Jo2, we all know that plenty of previous data was available to the classifier for a much better job at classifying. I don't know of many 27 yd....
The situation is clearly described in the current rulebook. Anyone in doubt should read page 20, paragraph 5, section b. The shooter was...
On second thought, let's take the captain of a NY State team, member of an ATA All-American team with a nearly 90% Handicap average from the 27 yd....
Sure, I can shoot my field grade 87o for 800 targets in Jan. and Feb. while averaging a cool 85%. Who cares if I shot a AA or A class average and...
I'll make it easy fo I'll make it easy for you to draw your own conclusions. Simply look up the class and category winners on Monday (the first day...
I think I'll apply for that ED position. Frank Rively informed me all what not to do-bobblehead comes to mind!
All-Americans with "A" averages? Well, one was classified "D" at the Southern Grand and promptly broke the 100 Singles!
Both guns are passe with only a small cult following. Both are also very flat shooters so you'd better like that. The TM-1 tends to be fast and...
Every time someone posts how unfair it is to criticize top shooters when they work so hard at their game they somehow deserve to take home our weekly...
But where did that money come from?
but Kay Ohye's handicap average went UP .5% the year they mandated 3-holers again. The biggest problem with the back fence in the old days was lousy...
Krieghoff continues to pop out Sporting Clays models by the hundreds but ATA trap is in decline for lack of disposable income. Bah, humbug!
Gee, the Southern Grand was loaded with Junior Gold participants-all 7 of 'em. Some days there were only 3/event. The most useless category ever!
Anyone remember Frank Rively?
Loading up on powder subjects the driver to severe penalties. Get caught without a placard and a certified hazmat driver and you'll wish you didn't....
Some people continue to complain Trapshooting is in the tank because of limited disposable income. That may be true for some but you should tell that...
You're one lucky old bandit. Keep up the good work!
Previous year averages are in the computer. How else can one classify if the shooter failed to shoot a target in the current year?
Stuart has nothing to do with shell speed rules but can mark "dq"on the shoot report as per a decision by shoot management. Not his call! I'm sure...
I think Stuart does enough of these shoots to know far more about the rules than most anyone else!
Ask Frank Rively. He wasn't allowed to visit those dark hidden corridors!
Federal Champion and Woody Brown's top the list. The only time I ever saw Frank Little leave a shoot early was in MD when shooting Federals!
Since this stupid cataract on my shooting eye is giving me fits I felt it best to spend as much time as possible on the practice trap trying anything...
I doubt you ever shot at the Silver Dollar!
The situation WAS brought to Stuarts attention and the correct determination was made according to him by reviewing the records and rules again!
Banks 2 and 5 seemed to be the preferred big dog banks this year. I seemed to miss them on bank 6!
So I see Stuart was wrong re-classifying an A Singles shooter from D class to B class in preliminary events and said All-American team member should...
Having just returned from the Southern Grand late last night I want to say it was nothing but a pleasant experience. Perfect weather, challenging...
If everyone was properly handicapped Calcuttas would be fun-today-not so much!
Sunny FL!
You've obviously never shot a target off an old Western Automatic trap-have you? The parallels between both events-stationary target and low spin...
Hang a target on a fence post and it's difficult to break-a fact for those who've actually tried it. Anyone who shot targets off an old Western...
My opinion is the GVM throws a better target and easy to work on too!
Some of who were around those old Western automatic traps remember how poorly targets broke off 'em. Short arm and less spin ='s poor break quality!
Gary, 3-hole targets will affect top long yardage shooters little if any. Voice activated systems did more to make the 27 yd. line easier than any...
And are you still?
Roger, as you already know I agree the best solution is adding three more yards before all else!
Sure, we can turn up the springs a few more turns and throw 'em 60 yds. but tell me what the rulebook says about that!
Me and two dogs is gonna have a brewski at the Southern Grand and continue to debate. I'm gonna take Tammy along chust in case it gets physical. Stay...
That Little guy, Frank whatever, was one fine gentleman, fabulous shooter and good friend. Unfortunately, improvements in gun quality and voice pulls...
Who was that Little guy? Not even a resident expert or charts and grapher. Must have been a skeeter!
Oh, oh!
There were also far fewer 27 yd. shooters in 1978 than 2007. Since there were far more back fencers in 2007 it tells me we've made it too easy for...
There's so many variables when comparing limited data over few years it becomes meaningless. Weather conditions alone account for the biggest...
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