I have a Holland shell bag---don't believe it was ever used. This bag is the best of the best. Made in the USA of latigo saddle leather---the bag is 12" long, 6"wide, and 9"deep. Price is $125. plus $15 for shipping. Don't think you could find one anywhere near that price, if you could even find one...the ones that I have seen sold have all been over $200, and were used. the only thing that you will see is where I put my name on the inside of the strap when I was going to use it, but I didn't use it. this bag also includes the accessory pouch that I'm throwing in.