Cardinal Center - dump RJ Stuart

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by nitrogetsome, Sep 15, 2025.

  1. nitrogetsome

    nitrogetsome Active Member Founding Member

    Cardnial Center it is time to dump that high priced out dated Rj Stuart . Program he can't even post the payoffs. For the money you pay that piece of you would think he could post the payoffs on the sight. Get SOS or something better send him back to Florida for good
     
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  2. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    A FEW YEARS AGO IN FLA. I RAN THE ONLY 100 IN A 16YD, EVENT. HE HAD THE TROPHY ISSUED TO A LOCAL WITH A 99. GAVE ME A RAFT OF SHIT THAT I DID NOT NOTIFY THAT I WAS ELEGABLE FOR THE CLASS A TROPHY. THE NEXT MORNING I WAS AFTER HIM AGAIN, TO CORRECT HIS ERROR. HE FLATELY REFUSED. I THOUGHT HE WAS AN ATA OFFICAL AT THAT TIME. I DID NOT KNOW HE WAS JUST AN ASS WIPE COMPUTER GEEK I WENT BACK THE NEXT YEAR AND WON THAT SAME EVENT. ROGER C.
    edited; this was back when the shooter had a choirs of trophies.
     
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  3. Geterdun

    Geterdun Active Member

    I broke a 199 two years in a row at the Ohio State Shoot. Ole King Bobs fine computer work kept me from even being called for the shoot offs. No reason to be paying for a service that the shooters are NOT receiving. I like Shoot Pro Cloud.
     
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  4. nitrogetsome

    nitrogetsome Active Member Founding Member

    He is the reason for the 1099 bullshit.he started that crap everywhere they ran his out dated . I have been around this for 50 years . When he ran the stuff they ask for. SS # he also kept the odd change at the grand. Time for him to go
     
  5. M Johnson

    M Johnson Mega Poster

    Shoot Pro Cloud is really good.
    Would b great if at least all the large ATA events used the same system. But that's probably much to big of a task. RJ is definitely antiquated.
     
  6. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Geterdun, Were you even eligible for a trophy? With the category and class rules set up as they are someone with a lesser score may have been the winner of what you thought was your trophy. This year at the grand I had the only 200 in class A and I was not eligible for the A trophy because I classified as a sr vet. In a class championship event the winner of each class is the event winner, but I couldn't claim the class A trophy. Maybe it was the rules and not Stewart's system that caused your problem?

    Dave Berlet
     
  7. Geterdun

    Geterdun Active Member


    It was not a class or category issue. It was all Bobs oversight..
     
  8. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    DAVE, THAT IS AN OTHER ONE OF THEIR STUPID RULES.
     
  9. Joe Brumfield

    Joe Brumfield Active Member

    Shoot Pro Cloud is great.... atleast from a user standpoint. Middletown this week.... I can classify, squad, and even pay if I had money from previous events all from my phone.
     
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  10. robb

    robb Well-Known Member

    I had two bad AA's last week in one event. One blooper that costed me the target and the other had such a bulge it wouldn't go in gun. Sad
     
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  11. RangeWalker

    RangeWalker Member

    Completely agree. RJ Stewart’s system feels outdated for the price. Shoot Pro Cloud is more user-friendly and actually works for the shooters.
     
  12. BIG PAPA

    BIG PAPA Forum Reporter Founding Member Forum Reporter

    Everybody is going to agree that RJS's software is way outdated. An old DOS based system that has not had any enhancements added to it. RJ has nor added any new features for years. Remember one thing, NOBODY COMES TO THE CARDINAL CENTER TO SHOOT BECAUSE RJS IS THERE, BUT SOME FOLKS REFUSE TO SHOOT TARGETS BECAUSE OF RJS. Therefore, cost the CC money. The CC is the only organization using this antique. Everybody else has given him the road. I know nothing about SOS clays. But, have used Shoot Pro Cloud in Florida and at Middletown Sportsmen Club. Shoot Pro is VERY user friendly and works great. It would be a great improvement. We all wonder what the death grip is that RJS has on the CC? Anybody know??????
     
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  13. nitrogetsome

    nitrogetsome Active Member Founding Member

    Yes Rj Stuart runs offf more people than you think he is a dickhead...... so let put him in the ohio hall of fame what a joke.
     
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  14. nitrogetsome

    nitrogetsome Active Member Founding Member

    Rj stuart is another no acount dick that has never lived the majority of this life in ohio just like Carl chadwell.so just put them in the hall of fame because the kiss ass
     
  15. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    NITROGETSOME, CARL IS NOT A DICK NEAD, HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GENTLEMAN AROUND NORMAL PEOPLE. I THINK YOU ARE AN ASS HOLE FOR YOUR STATMENT THAT INCLUDED HIM. Roger C.
     
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  16. nitrogetsome

    nitrogetsome Active Member Founding Member

    Neither one of them have lived and shot the majority of there shooting career in ohio per the bylaws. It's more of the suck ass bullshit of the Ata and the osta... regardless if I am a assshole or not it's the truth
     
  17. BIG PAPA

    BIG PAPA Forum Reporter Founding Member Forum Reporter

    I also agree that Carl is an Okay kind of a guy. But I think most people agree with u. Neither of them belong i the Ohio HOF. At least Carl shot while he li living in Ohio. RJS does not live in Ohio, never has and does not shoot. So, why put him in the Ohio HOF?
     
  18. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    I WILL AGREE WITH ANY DERAUGATORY REMARKS MADE ABOUT RJ STEWART. MATCHING CARL UP WITH HIM WAS A LOW TO SAY THE LEAST. I DO NOT THINK YHE OHIO HALL OF FAME IS A VERY CONSISTANT HONOR. IF YOU PISS THEM OFF THEY WILL REMOVE YOU. ROGER C. X OHIO SHOOTER
     
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  19. nitrogetsome

    nitrogetsome Active Member Founding Member

    Roger don't you belive someone you know . Maybe Ramo Lupi deserves to be in the hall before either of them 2..Just saying
     
  20. nitrogetsome

    nitrogetsome Active Member Founding Member

    Big Papa never did the other one. Bylaws say majority of your shooting career. 6 month or 2 years don't cut it.
     
  21. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    I AGREE RAMO SHOULD BE IN THE HALL OF FAME, I left Ohio many years ago, so why don't you nominate him. RAMO, was my best friend for many years, and I still miss him. Roger C.
     
  22. nitrogetsome

    nitrogetsome Active Member Founding Member

    I know he was Roger. There are a few more that should have been in many years ago. But the osta..and the ATA. always want to put people from the good old boys club in . If they don't like you it does not matter how good you are or what state your from
     
  23. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Ramo was a very good shooter back in the 1960's and 70's. I checked back in my old records and Ramo has been nominated, but there may be very little documentation to go with his nomination. I would suggest that nitro or Roger have an ATA target history on Ramo's shooting career and added to his file. Someone else who has been passed by is Chauncy Huber who was amongst other things 1954 ATA president and also a past Ohio State Singles Champion.

    The sad thing is that no one remembers these old time great Ohio shooters and it seems no one is interested in finding out about them. The nomination list that I looked at was from 2008 and there were several shooters on that list who would honor the OSTA Hall of Fame with their inclusion I could put names on here, but the people who want to be involved with bringing forth people for induction should dig into our past history and help preserve our history.

    Dave Berlet
     
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  24. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    DAVE, RAMO WAS IN THE TOP 10 ONE YEAR AT THE GRAND AMERICAN. IS CATHY KEYS STILL WITH THE ATA. IF SO SHE COULD VERIFY RAMO'S RECORD OF WINS. MY MEMORY IS FADING ME, I'M 89 YEARS OLD. ROGER C.
     
  25. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    I'm sure this would be brought to light with a target history.
    Dave Berlet
     
  26. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    DAVE, can I start a target review on Ramo, as an out of stater? and how do I do it? can I nominate him for the OHIO H.O.F.
    Roger
     
  27. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Roger to have a target history done on someone call the ATA office and they will do it and let you know what the charges will be and when they have it completed they will send it to you and you can send it to our Ohio secretary to be put with his file. To be sure go to web site (Ohio Trap) and you should be able to print out the nomination form just in case his nomination is not there any more. The target history will include his target attainment and significant accomplishments and you can add things that you remember. You can't have too much documentation. Hope this helps. You don't need to be a current Ohio resident to nominate someone.

    Dave Berlet
     
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  28. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    DAVE, THANKS
     
  29. Don Cogan

    Don Cogan Bird Hunter Past OSTA President Founding Member

    Dave and Roger,
    I‘m not sure if these are rules, guidelines or what, but the first sentence from the Ohio Hall of Fame website is as follows:

    “Ohio residents who also are members of the Amateur Trapshooting Association may submit to the Hall of Fame Board a possible inductee for consideration.”


    As Roger correctly pointed out, the website also says:

    “An inductee may be selected for one or both of the following: shooting ability and/or individual contributions to the sport. The candidate must be an Ohio native, spent most of his or her shooting career in Ohio, or made a major contribution to the sport as an Ohio resident.”

    So perhaps not all the rules are rules?
     
  30. RangeWalker

    RangeWalker Member

    Hard to argue with what’s been said here. RJ’s system is flat-out outdated and overpriced.
     
  31. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Apparently I CAN NOT NOMINATE RAMO LUPI FOR ENTRANCE INTO THE HALL OF FAME.
     
  32. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Roger it looks like Don may be correct on this, but I believe that you spent most of your trapshooting years as an Ohio resident and you moved to AZ. for your retirement years. So on this subject wouldn't you be considered an Oh. resident? Anyway when they can't honor (FOREVER INSHRINED) on the HOF certificate why would they concern themselves with any rule or code of conduct concerning our Ohio Hall of Fame?
    Roger if you get all the information together for Ramo and send it to me or Don we'll get a couple more good ole Ohio fellers to sign a nomination form for him and we will see where that goes.

    Dave Berlet
     
  33. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Dave i will do that. Roger
     
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  34. 79ROY

    79ROY Member

    Dave,rules? Forever ? Bylaws? Requirements ? Why??????? Bob Friede
     
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  35. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Bob 1 rules or suggestions 2 Forever what is the meaning of forever 3 bylaws followed to the letter or sometimes disregarded 4 requirements follow as stated or manipulated as wanted 5 WHY that is what I would like to know.

    Dave Berlet
     
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