private sellers no longer allowed to send via FEDEX...Update 2022

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  1. bobski

    bobski USN Retired Range Owner

    Down and dirty version: A person MUST be an FFL to ship firearms via FedEx now.

    I would post the link, but rules wont let me. youll have to google it yourselves....

    Page 126 of above document:

    Firearms
    Only customers holding a Federal Firearms License (FFL) and federal, state, or local
    government agencies may ship firearms with FedEx. Customers holding an FFL must enter
    into an approved FedEx Firearms Shipping Compliance Agreement before shipping any
    firearms with FedEx. For more information, contact your FedEx account executive.
    On behalf of customers holding an FFL who enter into an approved FedEx Firearms
    Shipping Compliance Agreement and federal, state, or local government agencies, FedEx
    Express will transport and deliver firearms, antique firearms, and replica firearms, all as
    defined by the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, as well as muzzleloaders and black
    powder firearms (collectively *firearms*). Shipments containing firearms must be sent with
    the Adult Signature Required Delivery Signature Option.

    FedEx Express will transport ammunition when packed and labeled in compliance
    with local, state and federal law, and the Dangerous Goods section of this Service Guide.
    Ammunition is an explosive and must be shipped separately as dangerous goods. You
    agree not to ship loaded firearms or firearms with ammunition in the same package.

    Same for FedEx Ground


    For a non-FFL you can only ship a long gun using USPS or UPS. A non-FFL can only ship a handgun using UPS.

    A non-FFL can still ship by having a FFL ship for them.
     
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  2. bobski

    bobski USN Retired Range Owner

    just like that, my s&h fees just went up on all my guns for sale.
     
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  3. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    And just like that, UPS and USPS gained new customers.

    Now, when UPS follows along like a frigging sheep because they don't want the PC police to target them only USPS will be left. And that is OK with me since I had zero problems with them for the last 49 long guns I sold that needed shipped.
     
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  4. Tufffy8

    Tufffy8 New Member

    Is there no provision for non-FFL shipping their firearm to manufacturer for repair?
     
  5. Robert Zimmerman

    Robert Zimmerman Well-Known Member Founding Member

    thats fine fedex sucks anyway
     
  6. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    I always figured that is what UPS stood for

    U People Suck
     
  7. Robert Zimmerman

    Robert Zimmerman Well-Known Member Founding Member

    I got shipments setting in perrysburg ohio for 6 days and cant talk to anybody that speaks english, I am done with them,
     
  8. Robert Zimmerman

    Robert Zimmerman Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Well it took 8 days and a call to ATF and got my guns FEDEX SUCKS
     
  9. Wayne J

    Wayne J Mega Poster

    Another form of gun control?
     
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  10. LCH

    LCH Mega Poster Forum Leader

    Dumb question.....but how does FedEx know if a non-FFL ships a gun?

    FedEx has been great to me the last 5 years or so. I've shipped a TON of guns, barrels, triggers etc. But recently have had quite a few problems.
     
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  11. bobski

    bobski USN Retired Range Owner

    they probably x-ray everything iaw homeland security.
     
  12. Jon Reitz

    Jon Reitz Well-Known Member V I P

    FEDEX is the worst in the business. I avoid them as much as possible. Too many bad experiences with them.

    Jon Reitz
     
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  13. LCH

    LCH Mega Poster Forum Leader

    Right....maybe they X ray everything but there's no way they can then back track (assuming the package contains a firearm) and check to make sure the FFL is a valid FFL holder?

    Seems very unlikely they can police this policy.....
     
  14. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Easy ..... FFLeZCheck 3.1.2 - Federal Firearms License Search

    "The purpose of this program is to allow an FFL or other user to verify that a Federal Firearms License (FFL) is valid."

    How they know that a firearm is in a package is also easy ..... you tell them .....
     
  15. Huntin'Fool

    Huntin'Fool Mega Poster

    When the pandemic started I used usps for everything then I went to FedEx for everything else. Now I go back and forth between the two it just depends what I’m shipping.
     
  16. skramr12

    skramr12 Active Member

    I shipped a Seitz last week to a FFL using FedEx and had no problems. Being insured for 12G's and next day was a little pricey, but why take chances.
     
  17. mpolans

    mpolans Mega Poster

    For long guns, USPS Priority is the way to go...Registered Mail if you want it to be *really* secure and/or it's a high dollar long gun.
    For handguns, I've found it cheaper for me to give it to my FFL to send via USPS Priority/Registered Mail (USPS can only mail handguns for FFLs) rather than pay crazy next day shipping charges for FedEx or UPS.
     
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  18. daledb

    daledb Member

    From FedX website today.

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  19. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Websites can sometimes be behind when they make a change so I just called my local Fedex store.

    NO changes that this employee was aware of. You can still ship a long gun OR a handgun via FedEx as long as the receiving party has a FFL.
     
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  20. Shooting Coach

    Shooting Coach Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Nothing has changed. I have used Fed Ex for decades. No issues.
     
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  21. Jon Reitz

    Jon Reitz Well-Known Member V I P

    I avoid them at all cost..
     
  22. Trapcountry

    Trapcountry Active Member

    Well said but the whole country is going left, be it beverage companies, sports, politics and even sex.
    I will not be surprise if UPS joins in.
     
  23. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    If anyone is waiting on a package shipped with FedX they might want to check with the Blount County sheriff's department in Alabama.

    It might take a while for them to go through the 300-400 packages found in a ravine but you never know, you might get lucky. That driver or drivers must have doing that for weeks.

    I can't wait to hear the excuses for this one. LOL
     
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  24. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    FEDEX has been good to me. Not so in all the country some say. Since I've got a FEDEX terminal right down the road from me it sure makes my life easier. Good packing boxes may help and I only use heavy duty ones. I've shipped plenty of rifles-some even with scopes attached-all over the country without issues. Maybe I've just been lucky since I only get limited insurance.
     
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  25. ljutic329

    ljutic329 Mega Poster Founding Member

    Still able to ship here in West Texas.

    Just sent a gun out
     
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  26. nickthanos

    nickthanos Well-Known Member

    Use to ship long guns via UPS because it was closer. Was told at last visit the particular UPS store had to have a special permit from UPS to ship guns. (true or not)
    Drove the extra 10 minutes to FED X , with no problems.
     
  27. Trapcountry

    Trapcountry Active Member

    The lone star state is on another level thats why.
     
  28. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Just a heads up for our members. As you all can see in the above posts, at the time of the original posting, Sept 2021, we found that a non-licensee could still ship a firearm as long as the receiving party had a FFL. The picture of the fedex website that was posted by daledb shows that you could still do that. Handguns or long guns.

    Well, that has now changed. I just called the same Fedex center that back in Sept told me you COULD ship and was told by the manager that around December of 2021 they did change the rules and a non-licensed person CANNOT ship a firearm without using a FFL on both ends.

    I asked if this pertained to just handguns and was told that it meant ALL firearms.

    Here is a copy from their NEW website.

    Steps for how to ship firearms
    Shippers with a Federal Firearm License

    Only customers holding a Federal Firearms License (FFL) and federal, state, or local government agencies may ship firearms with FedEx. Customers holding an FFL must enter into an approved FedEx Firearms Shipping Compliance Agreement before shipping any firearms with FedEx. For more information, contact your FedEx account executive.


    Nonlicensee shippers

    Nonlicensees are prohibited from shipping firearms with FedEx

    Looks like unless you want to go to your FFL and pay them to ship for you it's UPS for firearms. I have used USPS Priority for the long guns I have sold and other than the delays we experienced due to the crapdemic, they all arrived without any problems. I just shipped one from PA to MD and it took 2 days.

    Bobski posted the same info about "entering and agreement" but at that time fedex hadn't yet implemented their new rules. Looks like Bobski needs a new handle.
    Bobski The Prophet
     
  29. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    If you want to deal in firearms get a license like the rest of us!
     
  30. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Dog, the rest of US? You speaking for every FFL holder or just yourself? Me thinks it's just you. The all knowing dog. LOL

    I posted that to help anyone that was thinking about shipping their sold firearm and you decided that Monday was a good day to take a swipe at me? Business slow?

    You don't want to start with me again.

    I had my license starting in 1989 and kept it for 21 years. You know what the funny thing is?

    In all that time, from a brick and mortar store for a few years, then out of my home (PA Sales tax, Alleghany County License, Local License included)
    I never cared what anyone else did. It was NONE OF MY CONCERN.

    If some jerkoff said anything to me about selling out of my house, I just laughed at him. Remember when you could buy SKS's by the wooden crate, clean them, add a 30 round mag, and more than double the $69.95 cost at a big show? Remember when you could sell 40 of them in just one weekend show? The UPS driver got tired of unloading all those crates.

    The point dog, just in case you missed it. I sold more firearms than you ever will so don't preach at me. I've been there, done that.

    Here's a novel idea that should have been part of your business plan from the start. Sell your stuff, keep your comments to yourself, and don't be concerned about anyone else.
     
  31. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    BTW, the law is the law. You deal in firearms and you need a license. My customers have no issue with me packing and shipping their firearms for a few extra $$. The ATF makes the rules-not you. Just for your information I'm well over thousands of sales on Gunbroker alone so far and transferred over 20 last week. My last visit from an ATF inspector stated you've got quite a business here.
     
  32. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    SO, that's the rub. You don't like it when someone can sell and ship and cut you out. I figured as much.

    And BTW, if you want, I'll PM you all my info and you can turn me in to the ATF.

    BUT, if they say I'm good to go because I'm selling off my collection and not buying new guns to re-sell, you have to AGAIN publicly apologize and tell everyone you were WRONG AGAIN. Just say the word and my name and address are on the way.
     
  33. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Let's get real. The ATF changed the rules years ago and made kitchen table dealers like you get a license. Without a brick and mortar location you refused to jump through their hoops, chickened out and quit. No one is against anyone selling their personal collection without a license and please tell all of us where I said that. While you're at it what's so hard having your local dealer package and ship your firearms for a small fee? Certainly, stops you from breaking any laws and puts the hammer on the dealer if there's an issue. If an extra $10 or $15 for their help is so terrible it sure makes you look like a typical nickle/dimer.
     
  34. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Geeez are you really that dumb? Do you even think before you post?

    I had the store for only 5 years with 2 partners. One got divorced and the other had to move out of state for a better job and I couldn't work all day at my self employed window cleaning business, which I had for 17 years, then go to the store until 9:00PM weekdays and all-day Saturday. I had my license at my house for the other 16 years so NO the ATF didn't make me jump through anything.
    I gave it up when I took a job working for a company 65 hours a week and couldn't be home during the day for that UPS driver.

    I saw the picture of your "store". Looks like your house to me. Got a kitchen table in there somewhere?
    Yeah, nickel/dimer. Nice try Einstein. All my sales state price PLUS shipping. The buyer pays for anything included in the shipping, so it doesn't cost ME anything to ship it.

    Breaking any laws? Did I miss the part where you answered about calling the ATF and reporting me? Or did you just forget that part?
     
  35. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Yup, work right out of the garage with zoning approval and an office upstairs. Knowing so many shooters dying and their widows keeps me in great, high-quality inventory. Works for me and when I'm tired I go in and grab a beer. I too worked a full-time job in the steel mill, managed a very successful gun club and ran the firearms business doing around $350,000/year-all in my spare time. Doesn't make you look very special, does it? You break laws when you send a handgun without the benefit of an FFL handling it. I hope you didn't try that one yet! You complained about FEDEX no longer willing to handle shipments from a non FFL. Don't like the rules-go elsewhere. I happen to believe their shipping costs are lower than UPS and a main hub opened up 5 minutes from me so it's a no brainer. Have fun liquidating your collection before you die. Both my sons and wife are shooters and I'm sure there's a battle brewing over my collection when I croak so I started distributing much of my stuff to the kids already to avoid some of it. That's the joy of having a shooting family. BTW, it pays to live in a secure neighborhood with fine neighbors that the delivery drivers aren't afraid to drop off guns when I'm not around.
     
  36. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    "Yup, work right out of the garage with zoning approval and an office upstairs".

    I don't where to start with this little gem. In your other post you wrote,
    "The ATF changed the rules years ago and made kitchen table dealers like you get a license".

    OK, put down the beer and pay close attention to this.
    When that phrase was first used, the words "kitchen table" preceded the word DEALER. That meant that people that HAD A FFL and worked out of their homes.
    Or their garages with an "office" upstairs. I transferred my FFL address from the store we had to my home address and used my home address for 16 years. Before YOU became a kitchen dealer did you actually have a store somewhere or did you always just use your home? Not judging, lots of "dealers" use their homes. Although most know what "kitchen table dealer" really is.

    Doesn't make you look very special, does it?

    I only wrote what I did since you "assumed" I gave up my license due to the ATF making me jump through hoops. You do a lot of "assuming" dog. Maybe that is why you get yourself in these situations. See my above post about not being concerned with what other people are doing.


    "You break laws without the benefit of a FFL handling it"

    Please post the Fed regs that state I cannot ship a handgun to a private party if I send it to the FFL of their choice. Don't ignore this part in your reply. I'm sure anyone reading this would like to know.
    As long as the receiving party has the FFL I can ship it to them then they take care of the transfer to the buyer. I can't use the USPS (I could if I still had a license) and now Fedex has stopped but I can use UPS.
    You can just copy and paste the above sentence and add, You're Right, I was "assuming" again.

    I happen to believe their shipping costs are lower than UPS and a main hub opened up 5 minutes from me so it's a no brainer.

    I don't have ANY shipping costs.

    Have fun liquidating your collection before you die.
    How could I not? And dog, news flash, we all die. Some families are very good to one another, and some will have brewing battles over their deceased family member's things. I'm fortunate in that my 2 children are both over 50 and I told them that since they don't want any of the guns, they can call a good friend that is younger than they are, and he can help them liquidate the rest of the pieces.

    You want to know the REALLY funny thing?
    By the time these are all gone, you will be dead too.


    BTW, it pays to live in a secure neighborhood with fine neighbors that the delivery drivers aren't afraid to drop off guns when I'm not around.

    Nice try dog. You again "assume" that you live in a better neighborhood. Trust me on this one. You definitely don't want to go there. As I said, I saw the picture of your house. Not judging, I'm sure it's a nice neighborhood. We all have to live within our means.

    From one of the other posts you put up without thinking
    "BTW, the law is the law. You deal in firearms and you need a license."

    Since it looks like you forgot, let me know when you want me to PM you all my info so you can call the ATF and report me for selling my own collection.
    And remember, when they tell you that since it's my private collection and I don't need a license, you will post that info so other people won't be as confused as you are.

    "Just for your information I'm well over thousands of sales on Gunbroker alone"
    WOW, that must have been a while ago huh? I went to the advance tab on GB, entered the PA sellers, and when I started to type the first 3 letters in your "store name" it popped right up. As if you had registered. Funny thing is, I didn't see ANY sales under that name.
     
  37. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

     
  38. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    So you sold crates of SKS's at gun shows. Like they say I've never known a poor junk man. I cut my teeth on high end guns like K-80's. I'd rather sell one high end to 10-870's. You work just as hard selling a $200 gun as a $5,000 one but the money is far better, You'd better check those postal regs again for handguns as I'm not gonna help you with bail money.
     
  39. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    It looks like the dawg has opened mouth and inserted foot again. L.O.L. Roger C.
     
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  40. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Sorry I couldn't respond much today. That's what happens when you're out playing with guns. I made up a nice Model 12 Trap with a PFS stock for a backup to my Trap Special and it wasn't too bad. Two 23's/25 with the Winchester and a 24 with the Krieghoff in the cold. I'm trying not to rest on my laurels like some people who broke a decent score nearly 50 years ago or killed pigeons great in August (the ones with few feathers). Having just finishing a local Winter league 4th High Gun and beating nearly 250 shooters while shooting off a chair or with a surgical boot shows I've still got some left in the tank-others-not so much.
    The good part is I bought two nice Model 12 Traps (pre 64's) for a grand total of $1,100. I bought another one Sunday pretty rough for $500 that had a superb Spears release trigger. There's a bit of gravy in all of those.
    As usual your computer skills must be lacking as I've been a Gunbroker member for many years with around 1,200 positive reviews. Since only around 1/3rd of buyers write a review I suppose you could say Gunbroker has been good to me. I see you enjoyed selling trash guns at gun shows. Good for you-that never interested me.
     
  41. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader



    From the ATF site

    May a licensee mail handguns through the U.S. Postal Service?
    Yes. Licensees may mail an unloaded handgun to another licensee in customary trade shipments. Handguns may also be mailed to any officer, employee, agent, or watchman who is eligible under 18 U.S.C. 1715 to receive pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person for use in connection with his or her official duties.

    As I explained to you, if I still had my license, I could indeed mail a handgun to another FFL

    Any other things you don't know that I can help you with?
     
  42. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Your posts are all starting to sound like Yada Yada Yada Yada. You should start all your posts with Once upon a Time

    You know, telling someone that you broke 23's and 24's is like telling them that you know how to read. Hate to break your bubble dog but those scores are pretty much average. Why only 4th place? If I couldn't break 25's after ALL that shooting you claim to do I would just hang it up.. In the dog's world that might be a big deal but in reality? You could sit in the clubhouse and tell everyone how great your kitchen table business was doing.

    Your lack of sales on GB has nothing to do with my computer skills. Actually, they're pretty good. I found the ATF page that shows you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to mailing handguns, and remember, I found the picture of your kitchen table gun business.

    You going to prove me wrong about the FFL and send my name to them? Or are you just going to pretend you didn't see my other posts?
     
  43. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    From Gunbroker, A non-licensee can mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in another state. Handguns are not mailable. You've now become a non-licensee.
    When in doubt we suggest arranging for a transfer through a licensed dealer. Violation of CFA is a felony and penalties for violations are severe. Soap on a rope?

    All 24's and 25's when it counted. Ask the other 242 shooters I beat!
     
  44. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Roger, you're again looking quite foolish. Leave gun regulations to professionals like me.
     
  45. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Handguns ARE mailable, FROM ONE FFL TO ANOTHER. Look up a few posts.

    Reading comprehension wasn't your best class, was it?

    From my earlier post about handguns. The one where I actualy dissected you.

    As long as the receiving party has the FFL I can ship it to them then they take care of the transfer to the buyer. I can't use the USPS (I could if I still had a license) and now Fedex has stopped but I can use UPS.

    When you get upset you start to post like winston used to don't you?

    Do yourself a favor, CALL THE ATF OFFICE and ask if a non-licensee can ship to a FFL holder using UPS.
    And then sound really dumb and ask if one FFL can use the USPS to mail a handgun to another FFL.
    Then double down and really, really, sound dumb and ask them if I need a license to sell my own collection
    You want me to PM my personal info to you now so you can ask the ATF?

    I can't help you any more dog. I know from your PM's to me about the 1993 Average Book thread that you like to keep things like this going but it is rather childish and besides,,,,,, you're boring me.
     
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  46. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Yeah Roger. Anyone that has a business in their garage with an office and everything above it knows all there is to know about the "gun business"

    Now THAT is some funny s*&^ right there.

    Dog, you should have been a comedian.
     
  47. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    OH geeeez, I don't know how I skipped over this one. Good thing for you I wasn't shooting that league.

    You would have finished 5th.
    Hehehehehe
     
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  48. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    See flyers, you are getting smarter. Of course licensees can send a handgun by mail to another licensee. Now we're getting somewhere. That took awhile. BTW, I broke a 200 in Singles only once but I still keep trying. No use chickening out in my old age even though shooting the pidge is a thing of the past. Beating almost 250 shooters mostly younger than me is kinda fun-a victory for the geezers. My garage works out quite well and the overhead is low. I was too smart to be married to a store.
     
  49. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    I cut my teeth selling Krieghoffs for Huntings Gun Shop-the original Krieghoff importer and factory warranty center. Old Melvin was a wealth of information and son Glenn was a master gunsmith. Heh, if you wanted to make a living selling Mossberg 500's at gun shows good for you. That was never my bag. Now I assist the county sheriff department getting confiscated firearms back to their rightful owners while they value my knowledge of the law.
     
  50. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Dawg, The only thing professional about you is you are a profound bull shitter about you own abilities On and off of the trap fields. I do not think you would have made a good comedian either. BUT you are good at tooting your own horn, maybe you should have been a musician. Better quit while you are ahead, remember the last time you tangled with the flyer. Roger C.
     
  51. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader


    Yada, Yada, Yada....
    So you worked at a gun shop where the owner and his son were very smart.
    The only question I can think of is,
    Why didn’t any of that rub off on you?

    If you had learned just a little you wouldn’t get yourself in situations that make you look so dumb.
    Pity really, all those years you were around them and all for not.

    When are you calling the ATF?
     
  52. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    I’m getting smarter? I told you from the beginning what the regs were and you decided you knew better and thought it was a good idea to take a swipe at me. AGAIN

    NOW, after you look like the court jester, AGAIN, you say I’m getting smarter?

    Thanks for “liking” my post where I said I would have finished ahead of you in that league you are so proud of. Glad to see that at least you acknowledged that.

    Dog, that last thing in the world you would EVER be accused of is “being too smart” about anything.
     
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  53. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    No, you stated you could legally mail handguns as a non-licensee though the mail and of course you were wrong-as usual. You should appreciate my correction as I wouldn't want to see you doing time in a small cell and Bubba. Thank goodness I live in the present and don't brag about something I did almost 50 years ago. When you're ready for a demonstration of today's talent on a trapline I'm always available.
     
  54. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Flyers even easier to tangle with than you. At least I still compete.
     
  55. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Read it again but slower

    As long as the receiving party has the FFL I can ship it to them then they take care of the transfer to the buyer. I can't use the USPS (I could if I still had a license) and now Fedex has stopped but I can use UPS.
     
  56. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    The only time I mention anything I have done is when you decide to say anything. Remember the apology you had to make when you said I bought the 25 straight pin? It was half assed and I know it hurt you to do it but that is what happens when you stick your nose where it doesn't belong.

    How about the remark that my trophy from the Grand was some "obscure" prize? You pretty much clammed up after I posted a picture of the silverware and my picture in Trap& Field. Dog, all anyone has to do is go back through your posts to see the number of times you thought you were being smart, and it turned out you just looked silly

    "At least I still compete"

    You call "competing" breaking 23's and 24's? Well good for you.

    It's really a good thing both Roger and I weren't in that league. You would have finished 6th.

    LIke this one too?
     
  57. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Still attempting to rest on your laurels from an event nearly 50 years ago? BTW, they're still throwing targets in plenty of places although not in a 3-hole. I seriously considered making the PA State live bird championship this year but it was so cold and windy I rolled over and went back to bed. I doubt you made it either. See, it's what your capable of performing good today not decades ago that determines who's got something left in their tank. Ask Roger!
     
  58. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Ya know what a dodo is-it's basically a flightless bird. That perfectly describes a pigeon in the summer.
     
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  59. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    OK, dog, I already told Roger that you were just baiting him again, so I hope he doesn't fall for your same old BS

    I asked you before, and as usual you never responded, If those "summer" pigeons were so easy why didn't YOU ever kill them all?
    .
    I know you think it's helping the site by dragging posts past the "use by" date and think the way to do it is by posting anything you think you will get a response, but it really is a pain and a waste of my time trying to straighten you out every time you post some of your wacky thoughts. You found out that it was a big mistake AGAIN and took the " let's talk about something else" route. Remember this PM you sent me about a different thread when you thought your posts were a good idea?

    "I hope you're enjoying this thread. I really know how to stir the pot. It was getting too boring here. We needed some controversy-let's keep it going!"

    If you actually had a good response, it would be fine but when you get flustered, you go off on some tangent that has nothing to do with the subject. Like winston used to. You either don't read someone's post or you forgot what it said, or you conveniently just ignore it when you realize that you should have just kept quiet.

    This thread was a perfect example. It was about Fedex and their shipping changes and YOU decided it was time to take another swipe at me. I don't know what your problem is but I have a pretty good idea. One day you are thanking me for enlarging the picture of your kid at a shoot and the next you are trying to belittle me.

    You want to post a definition, try this one. It sounds a lot like you.

    At times feeling very euphoric, revved up, and/or irritable

    That is the definition for someone suffering from Bi-Polar Disorder. That is the only explanation I can come up with for your posting the things you do. You post about going to jail and "soap on a rope". Dog, that just isn't something normal to talk about. You need to ask that local cop you are helping if he knows where you can go for some counseling. I for one am not going to be an enabler and help you go off the deep end every time you decide it's a good day to take a swipe at a moderator.

    I don't know if you are one of the owners of this sight and right about now, I really don't care. I didn't volunteer for the job. In fact, I told them I didn't want it but here it is, and like it or not you have to deal with me until they change it. As you found out on a different site you can't just mouth off to people. If you tried the stuff on someone else instead of me, I would have stepped in and asked the Administrators to toss you from here too. I wouldn't like it, but having someone with BPD posting things on the net really isn't a good idea. You never know what they are going to say.

    Think REAL HARD before you respond to this dog.
     
  60. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    You shouldn't be so sensitive since I've got moderator credentials too I prefer not to advertise. BTW, If you like you can check with the ship captain, since we've met numerous times at various trapshoots. I've been thoroughly evaluated for mental disabilities, and I came up short. Remember, I never get flustered when I'm always right. When you do good you will always receive an award. I don't deal with local cops but go way up on the totem pole. It's always nice to help fellow gun owners in need. In the meantime, do not attempt to ship handguns through the mail without the benefit of an FFL on both ends. I'm always eager to keep a fellow moderator out of trouble.
     
  61. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    The problem with people that suffer from BPD is they think they are always right.
    You could be the poster boy for that affliction.
    And there is no doubt in my mind that when you had those mental evaluations you “came up short”

    That’s the problem
     
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  62. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Actually, I've been suffering from a bout of IBS for the last several months so you can't say I'm FOS.
     
  63. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    They probably have you on something like Xifaxan for the IBS. That is one of the drugs you can take.

    I don't know if they have a drug for your main problem though. I couldn't find a cure for DOTM

    Diarrhea Of The Mouth

    Ask your doctor what he can give you for that.
     
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  64. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    I see you learned how to use spell check-awesome! Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I have beer issues which probably doesn't help.
     
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  65. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Well there you go. You hit the Trifecta

    Bi-Polar
    Diarrhea of the Mouth
    Too much beer affecting your thought process.

    I’m starting to feel a little sorry for you.
    Naw, just kidding, I couldn’t care any less.

    I just thought of something. You know that old phrase
    S*^# for brains?
    THAT might be the cause of your IBS and your problem with reading comprehension

    You’ve been crapping your brain matter out

    When your doctor agrees with me tell him I want credit for discovering this rare affliction.
     
  66. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Don’t you just wish you could come up with the kind of smart and witty replies I do?
    Hehehehe
     
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  67. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Keep up those insensitive remarks and I'm gonna moderate you. I heard from a reliable source you did Big Bertha almost 50 years ago. Maybe it's time to forget that accomplishment and move on to even bigger and better things.
     
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  68. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Oh man, I'm sorry. I was 20 years old then and I did hook up with a lot of girls. Wasn't she a cute Trap girl out east? How was I supposed to know she was a relative of yours?

    Ask her if she remembers me.
     
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