No money in guns

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by Kman1, Dec 25, 2020.

  1. Kman1

    Kman1 Active Member

    So Sportsmen's has been bought by the Cabella's cartel. Bass, Sportsmen Warehouse, Dick's, etc. all going to sports equipment other than shooting more or less, depending on the store.
    With the markup in shooting related items being <10%, and clothing, soccer balls etc markup 60%>, I guess money talks. Going to get tougher to maintain our shooting supplies and equipment.
     
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  2. CCfan

    CCfan Active Member

    I am confused by the post. Dick’s capitulated to the anti gun crowd.

    Cabelas can’t find enough guns and ammo to sell. Shooting supplies are scarce due to hoarding. I have seen the gun buyers 30 deep at Cabelas just to fill out the paperwork.
     
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  3. Kman1

    Kman1 Active Member

    There is high demand for guns right now, but business and businesses are driven by one thing: profit. They have to be. Sportsmen's, Cabelas, Remington, etc, would never have sold out if the long term outlook for profit was high. They sell a lot of guns right now but at low profit margins. As much as we would like to politicize these store's actions, it is only about owners/CEOs deciding which ways they can make the most money. Unfortunately, the paper work, government oversight, high inventory costs, involved in selling guns is often not worth the the lower profit margins in guns and ammo. That's why we see manufacturers going out of business, and gun oriented stores being sold off. I don't like it, but it appears to be happening more and more.
     
  4. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    If the Graphmeister was here, I think he would explain the supply and demand graph. Smith & Wesson and Ruger can’t make guns fast enough. The stores are marking items way up and still getting top dollars. Cabelas said they will sell every gun they get within a few days. Dick’s doesn’t sell guns because they thought the anti gunners would tow the line. And who cares?

    Remington was mismanaged. Tell us what gun retailer has had their stock value go down.

    The big gun stores have been swallowed up by the bigger stores. It is a business cycle. They have been swallowed up because of hi demand.
     
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  5. Gerald

    Gerald Mega Poster Founding Member

    No doubt there is more profit in clothing, shoes, etc.
    Easy to get from China, all the inventory they want.

    With a half-billion or more people employed making almost everything they handle how can they lose.

    Regards. Gerald
     
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  6. Willbaforce

    Willbaforce Active Member

    Then we should all boycott them all, Come together and Spring up our own shooting store. Its not that difficult to get this going. I'd just rather do something about it than whine all day.
     
  7. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    It is time for the American patriots to stop buying anything made in China. What do the rest of you think? II HAVE STOPPED BUYING FROM CHINA EVERY THING MUST SAY MADE IN THE USA. Lets get the ball rolling please.
    Roger C.
     
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  8. cwtech

    cwtech Active Member

    The current catch phrase is "Made in the USA with globally sourced" or "Assembled in the USA with globally sourced" parts/items/materials.
     
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  9. Jammer

    Jammer Moderator Founding Member

    Kman1, go to YouTube and watch the videos recently put out by the CEO of Federal's ammo division, Check out the NICS (national instant criminal background) volume for gun purchases the last couple of years.

    It's supply and demand. The free market is working.

    Low and mid priced firearms have never been high margin goods (but if you sell enough the gross profit $ start to add up), its like selling lumber, you better get the add ons, that's where making money comes in.
     
  10. Jammer

    Jammer Moderator Founding Member

    Kman1, go to YouTube and watch the videos recently put out by the CEO of Federal's ammo division, Check out the NICS (national instant criminal background) volume for gun purchases the last couple of years.

    It's supply and demand. The free market is working.

    Low and mid priced firearms have never been high margin goods (but if you sell enough the gross profit $ start to add up), its like selling lumber, you better get the add ons, that's where making money comes in.
     
  11. Willbaforce

    Willbaforce Active Member

    Its far beyond the time, I don't buy anything made in China for about 4 years now. I'd rather buy a more expensive product made in th U.S of A.
     
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  12. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    I could buy the cutting tools I use in manufacturing metal parts for about .20 cents on the dollar. I no longer do that I only buy from American manufactures. Lets get this to be with all that we buy. Roger C.
     
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  13. Gerald

    Gerald Mega Poster Founding Member

    Lots of junk out there.
    Been in a Harbor Freight lately?

    Son bought a Snap On tap & die set a few years ago. Expensive.
    Nothing marked made in USA. Broke a 6 mm tap chasing good threads.
    Break looked like a brittle fracture. Rummaged thru tool chest and found a Vermont marked tap,
    went thru like butter.
    Case in point....Beware

    Regards......Gerald
     
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  14. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    The big money is in primers right now. 5,000 CCI 209 primers just sold for $805 on Gunbroker. 200 primers sold for $52. The manufacturers eyes must be gleaming knowing what fools will pay for their product in desperation.
     
  15. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Geerald, Every thing they sell is junk. If you buy from them use the item one time and throw it away. Nothing they sell has a very long life. I do not buy metal items there . Roger C.
     
  16. Willbaforce

    Willbaforce Active Member

    You forgot to mention, Paying them peanuts in order to get cheap labor. How can they truly loose.