New Club coming to Fl

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by 635 G, Sep 27, 2019.

  1. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Blackjack Sporting Clays in Sumterville, will be shooting trap & skeet in the very near future--they have close to 4000 acres and are running a world class operation--they expect to have trap & skeet i operation by the end of Oct

    They will fill a void--good luck to them
     
  2. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    OMG, THAT is a welcomed news !!!

    I wrote to them about a month ago and asked IF they would possibly be installing at least one combination trap and skeet field for us who don't shoot Sporting...

    I never got a response, but this is great news from you !

    Keep us posted Phil !
     
  3. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Its going to happen 2 trap fields with BRB voice releases, a combo field with a pat trap wobble the trap will use BRB

    the trap fields will all be pat traps, also th e skeet houses will be wood to lessen the echo-that is prevalent in block skeet houses

    Now they're going with my recommendation for BRB's , shooters I know have had trouble with ERADS, they said BRB's ar bullet proof-

    They will be putting in lots of trailer hookups-- black water dump is still a ?--the club is real close to exit 321 on IS 75

    Fri nights shooting under the lights , followed by a steak dinner-- a real class act--Thank God--been roughing it too long !!!

    Also: mega room for expansion ,Silver $ --your monopoly is no longer sacred
     
  4. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Another ? what is the biggest dimension that a trap house can be-I was told the CC really pushed the limits--my rule book is a 2014--was told the dimensions have changed
     
  5. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Here ya go Phil, straight out of the ATA rule book effective 9-1-2019

    https://shootata.com/Portals/0/pdf/ata_rulebook_web.pdf


    B. TRAPHOUSES Traphouses must adequately protect the trap loaders and shall not be higher than necessary for that purpose. It is recommended that traphouses constructed after September 1, 2003 shall conform to the following specifications:

    1. Length not less than 7 feet, 6 inches, nor more than 9 feet, 6 inches.

    2. Width not less than 7 feet, 6 inches, nor more than 9 feet, 6 inches.

    3. Height not less than 2 feet, 2 inches, nor more than 3 feet, 0 inches, the height to be measured from the plane of the number 3 shooting position. It is recommended that the throwing surface (throwing arm or plate) of the trap machine be on the same level as that of Post 3 and the target height setting pad.

    C. POSTS The posts shall be 3 yards apart on the circumference of a circle whose radius is 16 yards. Handicap posts, when used, shall be prolongations of the lines given in Diagram I (p. 55), commonly known as fan shaped. The distance between posts at 16-yards shall then be 3 yards.

    I just spoke with the gal at BlackJack, and what a welcome thing this will be. Tom's got a little too far, and since I am no longer shooting ATA, this will be so much more enjoyable, and a nice ride at that.
     
  6. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Tom wants to be a beach bum and a cruise dude-- running a business is in the back burner, hope I'm wrong but I give RR 2 years @ the most
     
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  7. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    You used to be one of his largest supporters.

    My LAST ATA event that went all wrong at RR was when I got tied up in traffic on 75, and got to the club at 11:30 AM, and Tom wouldn't let me sign up even for Caps which had not even started yet. His program stated signup until 1:00PM, and when I asked about that, his reply was "I want to get out of here early today., you can go and shoot practice now if you like"

    I told him, thanks but for 8 bucks a practice round, I would rather drive back 50 miles from where I came from and take my wife to dinner...That was almost 3 years ago, and I have never set foot back there.

    Sorry to hear things are not going well over there even now. It was sort of going down hill back then, and I understand worse now.
     
  8. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Hey PM me , like to chat--was responsible for RR getting ERADS, he letting the place fall apart-very discouraging
     
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  9. 320090T

    320090T Mega Poster Founding Member

    I suggested Floridas Ancient Oaks Sporting Clays put in two trap fields to toss more targets. They didnt and closed. Targets in the air equa
     
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  10. BAMA

    BAMA Mega Poster

    My daughter who lives near the Villages said there was a new club there. I don't know if it has Trap.
     
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  11. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    BAMA,

    It may be Blackjack that 635 G is referring to.

    Taking a ride there today to get more information and take a look around. My sporting friends tell me I won't be disappointed.

    I can only shoot trap now, and this will be VERY welcomed to folks like me.
    new mini-mu (2).JPG
     
  12. 320090T

    320090T Mega Poster Founding Member

    I heard Tom has a girlfriend and his minds not on his business.
     
  13. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Just got back from taking a trip to Blackjack. Quick and lovely 20 mile ride.

    VERY nice facility, and a great gal behind the counter gave us all the info we could have asked for.

    Certainly looking forward to joining this club, and shooting Trap there.

    Nothing in this area can compare.
     
  14. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    They have close to 4000 acres, to play with--if they decide to get in high gear--combined with their proximity to The Villages which has 60K new houses on the drawing board--they might be able to become the premier trap facility in Fl/ and the south
     
  15. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Phil,

    I can tell you that The Villages Air Gun ranges are gaining attendance in leaps and bounds.

    My hope is some of these people who are enjoying these shooting sports will want to try our shotgun sports also.

    We will need to get this new trap and skeet facility out to our local press as things progress.
     
  16. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Its a shame The Villages developers kids weren't in to clay target sports--the Silver Dollar would have been history a long time ago--we got polo fields instead
     
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  17. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    With hat new acquisition of the 8,000+ acres, it's funny they couldn't put in some Shotgun sports fields. We came back up 501, and could not believe The Villages has their property all the way down there. From the northern boundary, to that corner at 501 is over 25 miles long.

    Still amazes me that when we go into any one of the villages, it's like going into a Small community.

    Yep, and an additional 65,000 homes...Orlando, here we come ! LOL
     
  18. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    The last recreation center might be in St. Pete
     
  19. firewater

    firewater Active Member Founding Member

    Hey Phil,where is Sumterville? Too lazy to look on a map.
     
  20. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Right off of exit 321 on !-75 near the Coleman Fed prison
     
  21. 320090T

    320090T Mega Poster Founding Member

    Prisoners for loaders and scorers!
     
  22. BAMA

    BAMA Mega Poster


    Cheap labor?:eek:
     
  23. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    I DOUBT IF THE PRISON SYSTEM WILL LET THE INMATES GET THAT CLOSE TO SO MANY GUNS. ROGER C.
     
  24. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Worked very good for NY several years ago...LOL

    YOU should have seen that. One girl scored the first 5 shots of each shooter completely across the first shooters line.

    Some laid on the ground scoring, and couldn't see the targets so would ask "Did he hit that one, the guy is standing in my way.

    I have to imagine they have hired better scorers by now with a new Delegate and President.

    Trust me, I was on one of those squads.
     
  25. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Just got a message , video attachment from the mgr/owner--machinery is current clearing & grading the new fields--its going to happen
     
  26. BAMA

    BAMA Mega Poster

    Sage Hill use to hire bums and drunks out of jail and off the street in Reno. You should have seen some of those Clowns.
     
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  27. N. J. BOB

    N. J. BOB Member

    Does RR stand for Robinsons Ranch.????
     
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  28. 320090T

    320090T Mega Poster Founding Member

    Yes
     
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  29. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Bob Taylor did that 25 years ago. That is nothing new. Sage Hill is just imitating what Bob did. Roger C.
     
  30. BAMA

    BAMA Mega Poster

    I was talking about 30 years ago. DUH!
     
  31. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Bama, I shot their first 10 shoots. I was there at the first shoot when they were ask about tables and chairs for the shooters to sit at while they ate. The answer was let them sit on the floor. Was not a popular response. Roger C.
     
  32. BAMA

    BAMA Mega Poster

    Well, they had tables and chairs when I was there. I shot there in the '80s with 200+ squads at the Golden Grand.
     
  33. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    You missed all of the rattle snakes then. The first shoot I counted 17 DEAD ON THE ROAD GOING INTO THE CLUB.
    On the first trap up on the hill one crawled across a ladies foot when she was on post one. She almost crapped her pants.
    When we were shooting on the last trap at the bottom of the hill, in the middle of the round the setter flew out of the house, He screamed that a rattler crawled in the house with him, when he could no longer see it he bailed. They were also letting the west coast hot shots shoot in front of the club house on every event. That was when you signed on to a squad you had the same squad number and post for the whole shoot. I liked the Little Mondo club more then Sage Hill. Roger C.
     
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  34. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Phil,

    I didn't make it down to BJ this weekend.

    Have you got any new news to report on the Trap field ?
     
  35. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Per the Fl ATA delegate, only one field is required to hold an ATA registered shoot, didn't like what I heard at TV club meeting--better have @ least 2 fields or its not going to fly for registered shoots-@ least he's got an open mind, not like the employees @ the $$$

    may drop by this Thurs to see what's going on @ BJ--going to Alabama this weekend--hope my arthwrongis holds up, if it does I hope together a couple of punches
     
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  36. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    635-G,

    Any more updates on the new field ?
     
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  37. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Nothing new, will take a look see next week, want to see if my skid of ammo is ordered or there
     
  38. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Will start pouring concrete next week, Tom & the office staff @ RR are taking another cruise next week, taking off in the heart of snowbird season--oh well--how to kill a business in no time, almost all of the Villagers are no longer shooting @ RR
     
  39. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    When and if the trap and skeet fields get into operation at Blackjack, that should take most, if not all that portion of Tom's business with TV away.

    Looking forward to the opening !

    From the two visits I had at Blackjack, that place is First Class.
     
  40. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Dropped by the club today, the work on the trap-combo is getting into gear, will be pouring concrete next week
     
  41. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    progress report, the field should be done in a few weeks, will get a shot-curtain--the owners are not penny pinchers--it will be first class--if they decide , that trap is a viable business asset-- Silver $$--you better watch out--6 minutes off of I-75--to a world class venue
     
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  42. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Very good chance of putting in shot-curtains, like the CC--again, not a penny pincher--by the way my old auto-loader(DeVault 391) is getting into high gear
     
  43. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Hope they get these fields in soon.

    Eustis GC, with SOUTH facing fields can't hold a candle to this fine place, and I refuse to go to Robinson Ranch any more.

    The guys shooting Eustis were really nice, but OMG, that background and south facing into the sun was "Almost" unbearable.

    When they only get 4 to 5 shooters for trap on a Saturday, you can judge that for yourselves.

    Will be dropping Eustis membership when these NEW fields are in operation.

    Indeed, by all means Blackjack is First Class.
     
  44. rookieshooter

    rookieshooter Mega Poster Forum Leader

    I'll be down in that area about a month from now for about a month. May have to cruise over there and check it out.