Drawing for banks is going to make Linn Creek fair.

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by 62286IL, Jun 29, 2020.

  1. 62286IL

    62286IL Active Member

    I am hearing all this crap about Linn Creek having mostly “non-resident banks.” With the bank drawing system we will see everyone getting a fair shot at winning. PA will need to follow as well.

    50 birds to a trap is a little strange but they will be getting part of it right. See you at the Creek!
     
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  2. 320090T

    320090T Mega Poster Founding Member

    Isn't it "crick" in Missouri?
     
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  3. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Before the shot screens at the Cardinal I was always trying to get them to draw for banks, although I can't believe Gibson will allow this to happen at his old club maybe this EC has a couple of thinkers on it.

    Michigan used to always draw for banks so maybe the VP from there has a little pull. It's only fair for the folks to be as good as the people so if it's his idea good for him.
     
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  4. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Banks 2 and 3 at PA are perpetually taken. Let the rest of the peasants eat cake.
     
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  5. ebsurveyor

    ebsurveyor State HOF Founding Member Forum Leader Member State Hall of Fame

    Hey Dawg,

    If you are there this weekend, ask the new president & delegate if they plan to ever draw for banks. If they do I might come back to the state shoot. After 47 straight state shoots I sat out this year.
     
  6. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    I suggested they all shoot bank 5 for recognition. Never happen but would be a fantastic direction.
     
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  7. TjayeE

    TjayeE Member

    Let us all wish the newly elected officers of the PSSA a well run shoot this week end (PA GRAND).
    I know they all want the organization to get back in the BLACK. Now, let's draw for bank change. I always liked shooting at the SW Grand (San Antonio) because they did draw for bank change on every EVENT. Banks were not posted until one hour before the event started. The only way you could get your preferred bank was to shoot with a handicap shooter on the bank by the grandstands/classification building. I liked the way the shoot was run in Texas. Good management.
     
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  8. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    I always thought drawing for banks is the fairest way to go. When I started the grand drew for directions also.
     
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  9. Smokey

    Smokey Active Member

    According to the Grand's program, it looks like you pick your bank when you pre-squad.
    Am I missing something?
     
  10. Don Cogan

    Don Cogan Bird Hunter Past OSTA President Founding Member

    The fairest way is to install a shot screen so every shooter has the same background no matter what bank they draw. I am a fan of drawing for banks at all large shoots.


    Brad,
    Can you imagine how confused today’s snowflakes would be if we drew for direction? We could probably sell tickets to watch that comedy show!
     
  11. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    You want me to walk HOW FAR between traps?
     
  12. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader


    Morning, where are you guys starting? East or West?

    Caught a break, East, how bout you guys?

    The friggin desert end again.

    Heheheh, see ya at the beer tent when you guys are done.

    Low score buys

    Hey Bud, good luck, break em all.

     
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  13. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Michigan used to give you a bank but drew for where it started, the traps to the east were the starting banks and if they drew the number 5 that bank was numbered 5 and then it went 4, 3, 2, 1, then 10,9, 8 ect. I shot Missouri when they drew but can't remember for sure but I think that is how they did it too.

    Don snowflakes, young and old, have no clue what trap shooting was like. I remember when you walked the whole line at all the Pa state shoots. You even had to pass the practice traps . The line was in a horseshoe shape. You ended right in front of the bar. I always thought that was the best place to end after a nice hot walk.

    That's how it was done for ever until the million dollar camper section was put in. Of course that's what happened at the grand before Pa. The ATA became a camping and ribbon shooting association then. Today it's homeless too, maybe Gibson will run into Merlo under the overpass soon.
     
  14. ebsurveyor

    ebsurveyor State HOF Founding Member Forum Leader Member State Hall of Fame

    Back in the day. I was shooting with Woody Brown & Frank Little and Woody pulled the squads for us. One year we shot the corner because no one would shoot there and Woody thought if Frank shot it everyone would want to shoot there. Woody also used the same logic and had us shoot bank 12 one year. Don't remember how it worked out for management & problem banks. I do know that this new way of someone shooting every target on a single bank (or 2) started after the old guard passed on. It started with the western PA shooters taking control of the executive committee.
     
  15. ebsurveyor

    ebsurveyor State HOF Founding Member Forum Leader Member State Hall of Fame

    Back in those days I was shooting with a guy that had two squads for every event (so did several other guys). We had to wait at the central entry building until they pulled the direction. Then we would sigh up.
     
  16. ebsurveyor

    ebsurveyor State HOF Founding Member Forum Leader Member State Hall of Fame

    In Elysburg, before Gene Anastiso put us on the bank system we skipped nine or ten traps for each sub-event.
     
  17. Don Cogan

    Don Cogan Bird Hunter Past OSTA President Founding Member

    Spend a little time working the CEB at any major shooting venue and you quickly realize why wild animals sometimes eat their young before they are old enough to reproduce. I couldn’t even guess at how many times I was asked “Where is trap one?” Like Jack Nicklaus said when he was asked how he found his way around the course so well “the holes are numbered”, and so are the traps. We used to flip ends between 100’s on the 200 bird singles event. Actually had a shooter complete three traps of his morning 100 then he went to the other end of the line to shoot his 4th trap. You just can’t make this s#!t up!
     
  18. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader


    YEP, like shooting in 4 different time zones.
     
  19. Jim/Canton

    Jim/Canton Mega Poster

    Wrong....silly ducks! They aren’t drawing for banks!
    62286IL is a disgruntled dude from Illinois. Linn is unfair again.
     
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  20. ebsurveyor

    ebsurveyor State HOF Founding Member Forum Leader Member State Hall of Fame

    The first time I went to a 200 target event they had 12 program traps. Not knowing any better I took eight boxes of shells to the starting trap.
     
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  21. Show Me

    Show Me New Member

    User 62286IL probably only shoots at Sparta and needs to get over Missouri being the new permanent home of the ATA. If the ATA wants a better background they can put up shot screens.
     
  22. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Zip code 62286
    2010 Census
    Population...………..5,807
    Male population...….2,966
    Female Population...3,042
    Male Median age......…...43.50 years
    Female Median age...…..43.80 years
     
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  23. iowa guy

    iowa guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    Is this an example of saying ‘the sum of the parts are greater than the whole’?
     
  24. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader


    I'm guessing the census takers didn't know how to classify the other 201?
    Maybe they "identified" as transgender?

    I did a little google search and found this,

    Population in 2017: 4,341 (92% urban, 8% rural).
    Population change since 2000: -3.2%
    Males: 2,113 (48.7%)
    Females: 2,228 (51.3%)


    Must have used smarter census takers than the ones they used in 2010. At least the numbers add up.

    Also looks like 3.2% got smarter too. They left.