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Family Guy, the big fat liar from Ohio. But they were sure happy to come out and shoot that target setting when they they were given the opportunity,...

Family Guy, you say that our area is known for cheats because we shot 2 hole targets and deny shooting 2 hole targets in Ohio. I am telling you that...

Family Guy, I am from the north western part of the Central Zone and the angles that I shot in Ohio were the same as the angles that I shot in my...

Family Guy, I am admitting to having shot 2 hole targets prior to the rule change at local shoots. I also shot 2 hole targets at the Grand during...

Smithy, are you saying that Tom got the gun because he kept the other options off the table? I thought that he got the gun because he served a ATA...

Smithy, those three sites in Ohio were the ones where the unicorns grazed by the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, weren't they? You can rest...

Davidson, a word of advice, don't start spreading BS when the facts are easily researched. First of all, let me say that Brad was, and is a...

Smithy, given the scenario where the same 27 yard shooters are winning many of the high profile events, and faced with a growing sentiment, that...

Seitz, I did not say that I have made any significant contributions to trapshooting. I assumed that when you describe the EC as a "small group of...

Smithy, I really can't see where I can contribute anything to this forum because to be seen as a worthwhile contributor to this site, you must...

Yes Seitz, compared to your immeasurable contribution to trapshooting, their contribution, indeed looks small.

Yes, Family Guy, you come from a place where the wind blew harder, the rain fell in buckets, it was a lot colder or hotter, your gun had more recoil,...

Well Family Guy, I attended about 14 Grands in Vandalia, starting in 1986, and all but one of them were shot with 49 yard, 2 hole targets. If...

So we can agree that the target speed is the same now as it ever was, for all intents and purposes, and the angles are marginally less challenging...

Iowa Guy, the targets can indeed be set to 51 yards and be thrown at +/- 22 degrees from the centre stake and be considered legal. First, and...

Bat, I am not sure where the Doc came up with the new organization that he is referring to as the WTA, but Tim Reed put forward a proposal to change...

Yes, Bill, by your assertion, everyone in a position of authority, is a thief... Much the same way the gang of thieves who ran the Phoenix Gun Club,...

Doc, with all due respect, neither the un-single nor the high rib top single have anything to do with a more heads up shooting style. The position of...

Simple question deserves a simple answer. Rude question, deserves a rude answer. Gee, Family Guy, who appointed you as the etiquette cop. Someone...

Well Greta, if you are really interested in who is on the ATA EC, you could go to: shootata.com - and hit the contact link. They are all there. Not...

WPT, thanks for the lesson in hindsight. My question was, which of the proposed sites that were brought forward, would you have chosen to replace the...

Brad, was it a matter of poo pooing the offers from Ohio, or did the offers from Ohio not fit the criteria that the ATA had set out when they started...

HistoryBuff, with all due respect as well, given the fact that the ATA was told that they could no longer count on using the property owned by the...

Fg, unfortunately you hit the nail on the head. There are 30,000 people driving by the CC every day, and likely, even if the HOF museum was located...

Two questions WPT, will it cost the state of Illinois any more with the HOF museum at the WSRC than without it there? And secondly, what shooting...

WPT, you are correct, if it gets shuttered, no good will come of the HOF building located on the WSRC grounds, but on the other hand, it is there, so...

Bf, I would suggest that you are high in your cost estimates for packing and storage of the trapshooting artifacts that were stored in the HOF...

In the scenario that you lay out, the families at the CC would visit the museum during off shooting times, but at the WSRC they wouldn't? Why would...

I choose the category of tougher targets and real competition. It's a shame you don't want either. Smoker, since you reject everyone's definition...

Well Smoker, if you really wanted to make your point, why didn't you say 1,000,000,000,000,000,000/1,000,000,000,000,000,000. I would doubt that...

First of all Smoker, I hope that you are just too stupid to edit your initial post when you say several competitors are tied at 100,000/100,000 and...

Roger, I agree, the old winchester x1524 had some advantages over the Pat trap. Mostly, you were able to centre the field and set the height all in...

A short list of suggestions to perspective new members to this forum. -First, don't drink the ATA kool-aid, you must have a taste for the bitter...

Gee Bill, it's obvious to all on this site, that you are a wizard with numbers and with your brilliant, innovative, fresh ideas, you would be a...

Andy, on the contrary, it was a Delegate from Mississippi who brought the motion to the floor on behalf of the small clubs in his state. Apparently...

Shoot well, John. A reply to a couple of your questions. #3-It is not that the angle requirement is not met until 15-20 yards from the trap, it...

Shoot well, John, when I read the rule book on flights and angles, I see that it states that angles are to be set NOT LESS THAN 17 degrees to the...

Shoot well, John, In the trials that you have conducted, what is the speed setting that should be used to achieve a 49 yard target? In your...

Doc, why would anyone have to remove the 2 hole bar to widen the angles? Of course, the bars were removed so that the angles could be narrowed. On...

Guys, if you want a faster target, how fast do you want them to go, or how far do you want them to go? Please put a number on the speed or the...

I guess the first thing that we have to do is define what a "true" 18 yarder is, or for that matter what a "true" 23 or 26 yarder is. To me a true 18...

User 1, how many categories would the ATA have to add to make a winner out of someone who quits after their first miss?

The point that I am trying to make is-if one 27 yard shooter scores 99 at a "Point shoot,"he gets at least a yard added to his current 27 yard...

FG, the shoots that I attend do not reserve banks for the elite shooter, none of them. A shooter at 27 yards shoots a 99 at a local shoot and he...

I will agree that there would not be a need for several banks that can service the 30 yard shooter, but if you don't extend all the banks, how do you...

That is the difference between winners and losers I guess. I shot with a person in the Grand American Handicap, the last year that the Martins...

Paul, before a shotgun leaves the factory, it is shot with proof loads that far exceed (how much, I am not certain) the pressures that are generated...

There is no such thing as a gun that is designed to shoot only 3 dram trap shells. If a shotgun has a 3 on the barrel, it is for 3" magnum ammunition.

Andy, the person that I am defending is not the shooter, but the person who was doing the classification at the event. The fact that the shooter was...