The Four B

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  1. Sgoose

    Sgoose Active Member Founding Member

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    This is pic the Four B who are they. Some for Sunday morning.

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    The 4 B are from left to right G L Becker, John Browning, A P Bigelow and Matt Browning.
     
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    First post Feb. 3rd, answer post March, 9th

    Damn, If I only had another couple of minutes I know I could have figured it out.
     
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    Well maybe next times
     
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    Amazing Picture

    Thanks
     
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    I`m guessing it`s from a Browning book...

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    Close but not from Browning Book. Look at the shotgun they are using
     
  8. HistoryBuff

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    In 1897 John M. Browning was using a Winchester.

    So, the Four B's are identified.

    Gustav Leslie Becker
    John Moses Browning
    Archibald Pierce Bigelow
    Matthew Sandefur Browning

    These shooters were actually members of the famous Five B's squad.

    Who was the 5th squad member?

    HB
     
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    John M. Browning invented the Winchester slide action. Originally, the 1893 then became the 1897 which morphed into the Model 12.
    But then, you all knew that, right?
     
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    The original patent for the Model 1893 & Model 1897. Invented by the two brothers.

    WINCHESTER Model 1893 & 1897.jpg

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  11. Jakearoo

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    I grew up in Utah. As I loved guns from youth, John M. and his legacy company were my heroes.
    John died in Liege Belgium at his lab in the FN factory working to perfect the design for the single trigger for his Superposed (the first over/under) which trigger design was perfected by, I believe, his son (Val?) after he died. He came out with the O/U first and Remington copied the idea and engineered the M-32 (Which was actually released in 1931 I believe.)
    (Another fun fact, JMB is attributed to have invented the O/U in the late 1920s but in fact, he had first "invented" the O/U concept and built some around 1880 but he didn't pursue it because he was so darn busy inventing and facilitating the manufacture and distribution of his inventions. (Often, for wars and such.) In his old age he returned lovingly and a bit urgently to the O/U project because that was what HE wanted to shoot.)
    Heck. He invented or co-invented damn near everything we all shoot, in about any configuration.
    If there was ever a greater firearms genius than John M. Browning, I'd be interested to know who that might me.
     
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    Jakearoo, I think you selected a mighty fine hero.

    Truly appreciate your comments on Mr. Browning.
    I read somewhere that John M. Browning was granted 128 firearm related patents.

    John & Matthew offered the Browning Bros. Challenge Cup in 1901. It was emblematic of the trapshooting championship of Utah. Sure would like to see that 2 ft. high silver and gold trophy.
    John and Matt sometimes shot with brothers George, Sam & Ed.

    Browning Bros. also put up the Intermountain League trophy for Utah's base ball teams in 1901.

    I was wondering why some notable shooters from that period have been overlooked by the Utah Trapshooting Hall of Fame. Hope the selection committee doesn't consider their lower scores. Back then the flights and angles rules were different. Usually wider and longer. Scores of 90 or better were considered great shooting.

    Sure would like to see a little Utah trap history on the State Association webpage.

    Here's how the Ogden Gun Club threw targets in 1901.

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