Need a little help here. Older Browning Superposed

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  1. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    I'm going to try and sell this Browning but before I get all the pics and details up in the classified section I have to know what model it is.

    Belgium made Pigeon Grade?, 30", IMP/MOD-FULL, SKLT, Coin finish

    Serial number 57XXX S9 So I "assume" a 1969 gun.

    The rib is what threw me a little. I remember the guy that owned it shooting it but never really paid much attention to it then. It had a Convert-a-Pad on it from Meadows Ind., and needed it because without it the rib is WAY too high.

    Side note, Meadows Ind. was started by a member of our club back then so we all had access to samples as Ken developed them.

    Thanks in advance for any help
     

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  2. trapshooter47

    trapshooter47 US Army Retired US Army Retired Founding Member

    Looks like a Simmons Rib on a Superposed.
     
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  3. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    That was my first thought too. Nothing on the side of the rib but when you compare it to pictures of their high "Olympic" ribs on other guns they sure are close. That Mossberg Trap comes to mind.
     
  4. trapshooter47

    trapshooter47 US Army Retired US Army Retired Founding Member

    Didn't another company do those style ribs? They maybe out of business now. Isn't there a gentleman named Eubanks that does ribs.
     
  5. Tom Machamer

    Tom Machamer Active Member Founding Member

    I will second the answer as a Simmon's rib.
     
  6. Sovrapposti

    Sovrapposti Well-Known Member

    I think the safest way to list your FS ad is state it as "after market" rib and let the picture do the talking since it's a shooter now.
     
  7. trapshooter47

    trapshooter47 US Army Retired US Army Retired Founding Member

    Ok here's another question on this gun, did all Superposed have a screw/bolt thru the forearm?
     
  8. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Yes

    At least every one I have ever seen, shot, or owned.
     
  9. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Yep!
     
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  10. Sovrapposti

    Sovrapposti Well-Known Member

    That's how it was designed by JMB, the most notable gun designer in the 20th Century who loves parts, lots of parts.
     
  11. Jakearoo

    Jakearoo Mega Poster Forum Leader

    Flyers,
    If the Superposed is a 1969 it is most likely a "salt gun." About 90% of the Superposeds made from 1967 to 1969 were salt guns.
    For those who don't know the story, Browning was selling so many guns at that time it had trouble curing enough walnut. It borrowed a process which the Morton salt company had pushed on the furniture industry which cured walnut with a salt process to remove moisture.
    But furniture and guns are different.
    The wood retained the salt and the salt destroyed the metal where it joined with the guns.
    I have one of those guns in my "collection." Wish I didn't.
    Pretty easy to identify. You will see all kinds of corrosion where the metal meets the wood.
    Here is a link to a story about Browning "salt guns." https://shotgunreport.com/2013/05/22/browning-salt-wood-explained/
    If one Googles "Browning salt gun" it is easy to find lots about it.
    Regards and good luck, Jake
     
  12. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Thanks Jake, that was the first thing I checked. No evidence of salt.

    Excerpt from the "Blue Book of Gun Values", by S. P Fjestad:

    "During late 1966, Browning's salt wood problems began to emerge, and continued until 1972. Most experts have never seen a long tang salt gun, and therefore believe that almost 100% of the salt guns had short tangs."

    This one is long tang Pigeon Grade with the "French Grey" receiver from 1969. It has the Superposed style forearm, unlatch and slide forward. It doesn't have the thru bolt like you see on their Pigeon Grade field guns so I had to look for more pics of Pigeon Grade Superposed guns and saw a PG Skeet from 1967 on the R.I.A. auction site with the same style forearm.

    I had a license for a little over 20 years and was pretty much up on all the models from all the manufacturers but got out of buying/selling/trading/collecting around 2009.

    Now I have to gear back up because I OFFICIALLY RETIRED last week (66) and am going to be selling quite a few pieces (all kinds) for a friend of mine that has been collecting since the late 60's.

    If I told you the number of guns that he has to move you wouldn't believe it. Overwhelming is an understatement. Suffice to say I will be long dead and gone before I can sell them all. I'm going to be VERY busy.

    Thanks again,
     
  13. dr.longshot

    dr.longshot Grudge Match Champion Founding Member Forum Leader Grudge Match Champion

    Flyers: Thanks for posting the Read Site, I read it, I heard Browning Replaced some of that Salt Wood, you may be lucky and got one of them.

    GB....................................DLS
     
  14. Jakearoo

    Jakearoo Mega Poster Forum Leader

    Thanks Flyers and regards. Unfortunately, I DO have a long tang, round knob Superposed salt gun. It is a skeet model. When I bought it on line from an auction, I was unaware of the salt gun issue. I knew the gun had some corrosion problems but came to understand the whole salt gun thing.
    Hard to believe Browning was that dumb.
    Best, Jake
     
  15. flabigpapa

    flabigpapa Mega Poster

    Simmons Ribs...were Marked along the side of Rib ..in Most Cases, Not All..But Most.
    Believe this Rib was Done By Moneymaker Rib Company. Both Ribs were and are Very Nice.
    Have Had Several Guns over Many Years with Similar Ribs Installed. Good Shooters.
    As For Salt Gun...Easy to Remove Butt Stock and Look for Any Salt Damage along Receiver Edges.
    Stock may be One that was Replaced by Factory Recall Years Ago. Have Seen more that One..that is from Correct Date Time Frame..That No Longer Has Salt Wood.
    Great Guns ...Shoot and enjoy.
     
  16. Krieghoff-80

    Krieghoff-80 Well-Known Member

    I have this same gun and it was sold to me as a Pigeon grade. However, my rib is factory original and a Broadway. My serial number is 45xxx-S6
     
  17. target manager

    target manager Active Member

    ill second the thought about moneymaker. Looks like his style