Hardest shot with most antimony?

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  1. Frost

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    Has anyone tested the brands of shot to see which had the most and least antimony?
     
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    Its interesting that some folks that will not buy some of the less expensive shot (Eagle) because its only about 3% antimony have no issues at all with buying cheap factory ammo with even softer shot. Federal, STS and Winchester were the hardest. West Coast and Lawrence were good..........
    Shot pricing is all screwball anyway as is supply. CACassociates has $34 West Coast, $8 a bag to get it here. At $42 its still cheaper than I can get it local..... Many places promote free freight but the shot is $45. Import from South America to Cabela's then to me with free freight at $36. Lead and labor and shipping must really be cheap in SA. Larry
     
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    Been reading a bit about shot. Its interesting many offerings of shot and shells refer to special "alloy" giving equivilent hardness to a certain percentage of antimony.... I am not aware of any information other than equivilency. Wonder what they are selling us??
     
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    N1H1 posted a chart......... this web site.
    Was a crush test only but now the post is there but not the chart........ Larry
     
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    Remington STS followed by West Coast and Lawrence.
     
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    True David but that did not include testing of shot in the Federal "Grand". Larry
     
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    SteveS1965, you should not be posting that chart w/o the proper attribution. Do you even know where it came from?
     
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    MG1POLO put that chart together and had his staff do the actual testing...... he put it out for all to use....... Larry
     
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    The more antimony the harder the shot, the lighter the shot. -- did some experimenting years ago using wheel weights used the crush method hard but light, linotype lead heavy but soft,. also discovered shooting a variety of Arizona quail with reclaimed shot seemed to be more deadly then new round shot, reclaim seem to do more damage maybe something to do the sharp edges of the shot?
     
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    Yep, means more pellets when compared to the same weight shot charge with low antimony shot that weighs more. Can make a substantial difference.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong. How does the charge bar (die) know the difference between low or high antimony? It doesnt! e.g. a 1oz die for #8s will deliver a set volume of that shot (approx 1oz correct?) whether its high or low antimony. Technically, a high antimony shot would deliver a less than 1oz load with the same die. I believe it measures volume not weight. Right?
     
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    I use the UCB to maintain a near constant weight..... Often differences in crimps will show when loading by weight, some a little domed, others a little dished. Loaded some "Star" a week or so ago, chilled shot, followed with some West Coast Magnum. Noticed quite a difference in volume/weight........... Larry
     
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    You hit it on the head- APPOX.- That's why I weigh my new charges, and have a 7 1/2 shot bar and #8 shot bar --most bars are based off # 8 shot --More air around 7 1/2
     
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    6% is the highest I have ever seen advertised, it's also the Lightest per BB, more shot per weighed load.

    GB...................................DLS
     
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    Seems the term "antimony equivalent is often used........ if not antimony then what is it? Larry
     
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    I have a club member that tumbles his shot for a hour --and swears it makes it harder? Great long distant shooter - Just don't understand his prosses ?
     
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    Remington claims the Nitro 27's and STS are loaded with the same shot ... Nitro's do not show on the above list ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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    I have always seen the STS and Nitro lumped together in any comparison of shotgun ammo. I believe the only difference besides color of hull is velocity. But I could be wrong, just ask my wife.
     
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